Achtung Baby/Zooropa remasters CONFIRMED for Fall 2011 by Rolling Stone - Part II

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Oct 31, 2011
 
From Universal, before it was takem down:

Achtung Baby: Uber Deluxe Box Set
EXCLUSIVE: LIMITED EDITION NUMBERED LITHOGRAPH
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Available to Pre-Order Now
Released on 31st October 2011
About this product
The Uber Deluxe Box Set contains:
• Gatefold wallet containing 6 CD audio discs
• Gatefold wallet containing 4 DVD discs
• Album vinyl on 180gsm black vinyl in wide spine sleeve with 2 x inner bags
• 5×7” clear vinyl in original sleeves housed in a slipcase
• 84pg hardback book
• 16pg 12×12 oversized booklet
• Branded sunglasses
• 4 x enamel badges
• Propaganda magazine
• 16 art prints in wallet
• Sticker sheet

A LIMITED UBER DELUXE BOX SETS ALSO FEATURE AN EXCLUSIVE NUMBERED LITHOGRAPH
The Uber Deluxe Edition Box Set is a magnetic puzzle tiled box containing 6 CDs including the original Achtung Baby album, the follow-up album, Zooropa, B-sides and re-workings of previously unheard material recorded during the Achtung Baby sessions. 4DVDs including “From The Sky Down”, Zoo TV, all the videos from Achtung Baby plus bonus material. Also 5 clear 7” vinyl singles in their original sleeves, 16 art prints taken from the original album sleeve, an 84-page hardback book, a copy of Propaganda magazine, 4 badges, a sticker sheet, and a pair of Bono’s trademark “The Fly” sunglasses.


Track Listing:
• Track Listing Not Final
CD1 - Achtung Baby
01. Zoo Station
02. Even Better Than The Real Thing
03. One
04. Until The End Of The World
05. Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
06. So Cruel
07. The Fly
08. Mysterious Ways
09. Tryin’ To Throw Your Arms Around The World
10. Ultra Violet (Light My Way)
11. Acrobat
12. Love Is Blindness

CD2 - Zooropa
01. Zooropa
02. Babyface
03. Numb (The Edge)
04. Lemon
05. Stay (Faraway, So Close!)
06. Daddy’s Gonna Pay for Your Crashed Car
07. Some Days Are Better Than Others
08. The First Time
09. Dirty Day (Bono and The Edge)
10. The Wanderer

CD3 - Uber Remixes
01. Night and Day (Steel string remix)
02. Real Thing (Perfecto Mix)
03. Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Extended Club Mix)
04. Lemon (Perfecto Mix)
05. Can’t help falling in love (Triple peaks Remix)
06. Lady with the spinning head (extended Dance remix)
07. Real Thing (V16 Exit Wound Remix)
08. Mysterious Ways (Ultimatum Mix)
09. The Lounge fly mix
10. Mysterious Ways (The Perfecto Remix)
11. One (Apollo 440) – Mix Master [S-109]

CD4 - Unter Remixes
01. Mysterious Ways (Tabla Motown Remix)
02. Mysterious Ways (Appollo 440 Magic Hour Remix)
03. Can’t help Falling in Love (Mystery Train Dub)
04. One (Apollo 440) – Ambient Master [S-109]
05. Lemon (Momo’s Reprise)
06. Salome (Zooromancer Remix)
07. Real Thing (Trance Mix)
08. Numb (Gimme Some More Dignity Mix)
09. Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Magic hour Remix)
10. Numb (The Soul Assassins Mix)
11. Real Thing (Apollo 440 Stealth Sonic Remix)

CD5 - B-sides and Bonus Tracks
01. Lady with the spinning head (UV1)
02. Blow Your House – Analogue Mix Bono Edit 190711
03. Salome
04. Even Better Than the Real Thing (Single)
05. Satelite of love
06. Wild Horses (Temple Bar Remix)
07. Heaven And Hell – In Truth Mix 211711
08. Oh Berlin – Analogue Mix 1 190711 (needs an edit)
09. Near the Island (instr) Night train from Rostock.
10. Down All The Days (Vsn 1) [CD#4/07] (needs edits)
11. Paint it black
12. Fortunate Son
13. Alex Descends into Hell for a bottle of Milk/Korova
14. Where did it all go wrong
15. Everybody loves a winner edit between take 2+3
16. Real Thing (Fish out of water mix)

CD6 - “Baby” Actung Baby
01. “Baby” Zoo Station
02. “Baby” Even Better Than The Real Thing
03. “Baby” One
04. “Baby” Until The End Of The World
05. “Baby” Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
06. “Baby” So Cruel
07. “Baby” The Fly
08. “Baby” Mysterious Ways
09. “Baby” Tryin’ To Throw Your Arms Around The World
10. “Baby” Ultra Violet (Light My Way)
11. “Baby” Acrobat
12. “Baby” Love Is Blindness

Achtung Baby 12" Vinyl
SIDE A
01. Zoo Station
02. Even Better Than The Real Thing
03. One
SIDE B
01. Until The End of The World
02. Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horse*
03. So cruel
SIDE C
01. The Fly
02. Mysterious Way
03. Tryin’ To Throw Your Arms Around The World
SIDE D
01. Ultra Violet
02. Acrobat
03. Love Is Blindness

5 x 7” Vinyl Singles
01. Fly
02. Mysterious Ways
03. Real Thing
04. One
05. Wild Horses

DVD
01. From The Sky Down – a documentary
02. Videos
03. Bonus Material
04. ZooTV Live From Sydney – the concert




Oh and don't take this for final.
 
Just get that one out of your mind. Once you do you'll be much happier. U2 probably priced it that way because they want to retain the 'market value' of the product. They do the same with tickets.

Especially because that price is NOT definitive, nor accurate. All the other sites, amazon UK and DE, universal, dutch site, have it listed as 300$. For now.
 
Canadian amazon price for the Uber set is $300. Super Deluxe $115. Fairly reasonable all things considered, and much cheaper than the UK or US ones when you take into consideration exchange rate. Actually given the norm, i'm sure the US and UK prices will go down. Canada's are always more in comparison which makes these prices bizarre. Or maybe its becuase our economy is doing better than both of yours! :D
 
Oh man, the Super Deluxe is $167.25?! I was hoping for $80 max. :(

Amazon.com: Achtung Baby (Super Deluxe Edition): U2: Music

Hopefully the price will go down, because there's no way I can afford it and I doubt anyone will want to get it for me for Christmas at that price.

By the time Christmas rolls around it will be in the remainders bin at Wal Mart for 15.97 and include an inflatable lemon and discount voucher for the Transformers 3 DVD. I'd hold out.
 
Why the fuck did they include Zooropa if they're not including any of the singles ( to match the AB 7 inches), demos, or out takes? Why not throw R+H in there too? If you took away the dressing, half of AB would fit with R+H and has more in common with classic rock than it does with Zooropa.

Real Thing, One, Wild Horses, So Cruel, The Fly, Love Is Blindness would have fit with no changes to lyrics or arrangement if they were given the same production as R+H songs. Nothing from Zooropa would fit on AB, aside from Stay.

AB isn't as much a musical reinvention as everyone thinks it is, and they are totally dissing Zooropa by throwing it in for no apparent reason and not giving it any attention.

If the vinyl box goes down in price (I won't pay more for it than I did Daydream Nation, especially since half of it will be those godawful remixes - I love techno, but those are shit, were at the time, and have aged really badly) I'll get that, otherwise I'll wait for the LP to come out on its own. I don't really fell the need to pay a shitload of cash for an album I've heard about a billion times. As for the uber/super...

Remember when McG railed against bootleggers for selling the demos? He was pissed because they were selling people material that U2 thought was not good enough to release. People were being fooled into buying substandard material. Now take a look at 1.5 discs in the reissue...I want to hear them, but to pay $100 for demos? Come on...why not throw them up online like Billy Corgan?
 
while I could have done without Zooropa in the box, up until the content of this box became known just about everyone regarded Zooropa as a ZOO TV side project (without that being regarded as any judgement re. the quality of the album)

I don't have the Sydney show on dvd yet, so I don't mind getting that
I can see why peeps are dissappointed about it, but I do think it was more likely to get no full live show than another show than Sydney
+ there's still a dvd which content we don't know about

so :up:
 
im fine with the super version, but i tell u this, i will be pissed if they release zooropa with its own set in the future...somehow i already know the answer to that...
 
im fine with the super version, but i tell u this, i will be pissed if they release zooropa with its own set in the future...somehow i already know the answer to that...

I actually don't believe there will be a separate, Zooropa reissue...at least in the near future, and in the CD format. If they were planning on doing that, I doubt they would have included it in the AB set. The band, like Pop, has come to treat Zooropa as a bit of an unwanted stepchild, unfortunately (though I'm sure there will be a stand alone Pop release). Frankly I don't think they have much faith that a stand alone Zooropa box set would sell that well. The band has expressed disappointment with Zooropa more than once, from both an artistic and commercial standpoint (it sold well, but was a disappointment when compared to the AB sales). I have no problem w/Zooropa being but of this set...it is inexorably linked to Achtung Baby and the ZOOTV era of U2...but I agree at the very least it should have included a disc of Zooropa rarities.

I personally think that this round of reissues/remasters will be the last release of the U2 back catalogue in physical CD format (though who knows there may be some huge complete box set retrospective once all the reissues are complete). I believe the next set of reissues will likely be high fidelity/high bit rate digital formats...DTS, etc. Though that's purely speculation on my part.
 
I personally think that this round of reissues/remasters will be the last release of the U2 back catalogue in physical CD format (though who knows there may be some huge complete box set retrospective once all the reissues are complete). I believe the next set of reissues will likely be high fidelity/high bit rate digital formats...DTS, etc. Though that's purely speculation on my part.

I think the box set trend will continue - there's a pretty high profit margin, and you can't "illegally" download a box set. Quite a few classic rock artists are releasing or have recently released expensive box sets (Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Beatles, etc.)
 
You can't get special edition stuff like this at Wal-Mart, or at least at my local Wal-Mart.

I usually don't complain about things like this because I really like U2 box sets, but I'm starting to think that they really screwed this one up. If it was at a more reasonable price, I could probably let it go, but I'm feeling too dissatisfied to justify spending that much money. I was hoping that they'd make an AB box set like they did for JT with the album, bonus CD, and DVD with the documentary, music videos, and bonus material; toss in some art prints (if they must) and a little book and it's good to go for $54.99. And I think Zooropa should at least come in its own nice little box like Boy-Oct-War and UABRS did. But oh well.
 
I think the box set trend will continue - there's a pretty high profit margin, and you can't "illegally" download a box set. Quite a few classic rock artists are releasing or have recently released expensive box sets (Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Beatles, etc.)

No, I agree the box sets will continue for a while, you're right. But those classic artists are a lot further along in their careers than U2 are, and are releasing that stuff one last time I think, at the tail end of the CD format. I just personally think by the time U2 finishes doing this round of reissues, "physical" formats like CD and DVD will be on their way out. Obviously purely digital editions present their own set of problems for the record labels (and sympathetic, I am not) but that's another discussion. But I believe once the challenges like piracy and bandwidth and delivering high fidelity, lossless music digitally, in a practical way, are worked out, the physical formats will start to vanish (and of course it's already begun).

I understand some people love actually holding a disc, the packaging, artwork, etc., and for those people I believe those formats will still be available, but eventually will become more of a niche market, like vinyl. Anyway, this is not the place for that discussion, as I know audiophiles and people really into music have strong opinions on this subject.
 
By the time Christmas rolls around it will be in the remainders bin at Wal Mart for 15.97 and include an inflatable lemon and discount voucher for the Transformers 3 DVD. I'd hold out.

Thats not far off. I just bought the JT remaster 2 cd plus dvd set on amazon for 35 dollars. Does anyone remember what it was when it came out new?

The vinyl looks pretty amazing, but its bloody annoying flipping it after 3 songs! Couldn't they have fit it on 3 sides and make side 4 something else? Why do these re-issues take up double the space anyway? Anyone know the logistics?
 
interesting, could you link me to 2 examples of this?

Well, some of those comments come from the Mccormick book, so if you have that just check the Zooropa section. Edge says the songs weren't "potent" and 'not classics' and describes the album as an "interlude". And here's one comment from Bono:

"I thought of Zooropa at the time as a work of genius. I really thought our pop discipline was matching our experimentation and this was our Sgt. Pepper. I was a little wrong about that. The truth is our pop disciplines were letting us down. We didn't create hits. We didn't quite deliver the songs. And what would Sgt. Pepper be without the pop songs?"

All the bands comments from the Zooropa (and Pop) part of that book just have a tinge of disappointment in how those records ended up artistically and commercially (and U2 has a habit of often conflating the two).
 
More space on records generally equals better sound.

I've read that somewhere too, but on JT for example there seems to be lots of blank space left over. I would assume they just spread it out to fit on all 4 sides becuase it couldn't fit on 2 and 3 would leave one empty side? So put some goodies on the 4th side i say!
 
I've read that somewhere too, but on JT for example there seems to be lots of blank space left over. I would assume they just spread it out to fit on all 4 sides becuase it couldn't fit on 2 and 3 would leave one empty side? So put some goodies on the 4th side i say!

Sonichka, that's not entirely true (re: more space = better sound). Your observation about the blank space at the end of the U2 remasters is a good one. Records actually will sound better when the grooves are not spread so far apart. As a general rule of thumb, the further from the "label" a record finishes, the better sound. Hence, all the blank space at the end of high quality vinyl reissues.

A caveat to this is...while more grooves per inch typically results in better sound, it can make it easier for the record to skip.
 
So the grooves on the inner part of the record wont sound as good as the outer grooves? Is this becuase they are going in a tighter circle?
 
When a lot of songs are crammed onto one side of a record songs closer to the center of the album tend to suffer from inner groove distortion. Audiophile releases tend to spread an album out on 2 lps to avoid this.
 
So the grooves on the inner part of the record wont sound as good as the outer grooves? Is this becuase they are going in a tighter circle?

No...it just means that if a short record ends close to the label, they've used a lot of space, and as a general rule the more grooves per inch the higher quality sound.
 
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