Winter is the best of the new songs to emerge

redhill · 07-16-2009, 04:14 PM

My favorite by far.

alanah · 07-16-2009, 05:10 PM

Winter is a terrific song! I like it more than Window in the Skies, Boots, Vertigo and many others songs...yeah, I said it.

SethVincent · 07-16-2009, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanah

Winter is a terrific song! I like it more than Window in the Skies, Boots, Vertigo and many others songs...yeah, I said it.

Better than Vertigo

LOL

I do love me some Winter

I still say NLOTH would be better if COL were dropped as the last song & Winter was in it's place

IMHO of course

alanah · 07-16-2009, 06:11 PM

Sorry, I have never loved Vertigo.

BVS · 07-16-2009, 06:51 PM

I can see why it was left off

alanah · 07-16-2009, 07:03 PM

Well, lots of good songs has been left off in many U2 tours.

Earnie Shavers · 07-16-2009, 08:15 PM

You need to use your imagination on the version we have. I can see it has massive potential. What we have is disjointed and messy, but what we have is certainly not what they would have put on record anyway. Also, Eno’s description of it sounds almost nothing like what we have, so perhaps they’ve slipped us v1.0 and left a very different v2.0 up their sleeve.

If they could smooth out the connections between the various sections of the song (it’s a bumpy ride as it is), tweak the lyrics, and then add the lush production it surely would have gotten if given the green light (or has in a newer version they’re holding back) I do like the overall feel, especially from the second “summer sings in me no more” on to the end, which I love. It’s really just the first half that needs the structural work.

If it had made the album, I don’t see it as a closing track, more of a bridge song that could have provided a more smooth transition between the bombastic 00s U2 of the middle trio and the return to Eno land of Fez-Being Born.

And yes, it’s potentially light years ahead of Vertigo.

Gonna Run 2 U · 07-16-2009, 08:29 PM

"Summer.. sings in me no more" (followed by pounding bass) <-- That is a defining U2 moment right there and i have a bad feeling in my stomach that Bono will change the lyric. I hope we get a proper release in the future.

gherman · 07-16-2009, 08:32 PM

Its ok at best

Too choppy, all over the place, constructly poorly, bad vocals, nothing new and worst of all the begining sounds like that shit song Viva.

Irishteen · 07-16-2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SethVincent

Better than Vertigo

The list of U2 songs better than Vertigo consists of nearly every song they've ever recorded

Heathcliff · 07-16-2009, 08:37 PM

Pretty bland song, it needs more work.
A billion times better than Mercy anyway, which is the worst thing U2 (almost - thank God) put on record.

ozeeko · 07-16-2009, 11:06 PM

If you're a U2 fan that loves Coldplay, then this is your song. If you're a U2 fan that hates Coldplay...well u know the rest.

mikal · 07-16-2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earnie Shavers

You need to use your imagination on the version we have. I can see it has massive potential. What we have is disjointed and messy, but what we have is certainly not what they would have put on record anyway. Also, Eno’s description of it sounds almost nothing like what we have, so perhaps they’ve slipped us v1.0 and left a very different v2.0 up their sleeve.

If they could smooth out the connections between the various sections of the song (it’s a bumpy ride as it is), tweak the lyrics, and then add the lush production it surely would have gotten if given the green light (or has in a newer version they’re holding back) I do like the overall feel, especially from the second “summer sings in me no more” on to the end, which I love. It’s really just the first half that needs the structural work.

If it had made the album, I don’t see it as a closing track, more of a bridge song that could have provided a more smooth transition between the bombastic 00s U2 of the middle trio and the return to Eno land of Fez-Being Born.

And yes, it’s potentially light years ahead of Vertigo.

this

AtomicBono · 07-17-2009, 12:08 AM

I really love Winter. Not better than a lot of NLOTH but once I got past the Viva La Vida intro (which they would be stupid to keep in if they release it on record) it grew on me a lot. I think it's a beautiful song. Definitely needs some work, especially in the lyric department (though I really like the chorus), but as Earnie said, the potential is there.

summer sings in me no more ... that's such a U2 moment.

Earnie Shavers · 07-17-2009, 01:44 AM

Yep. And you can’t really compare something like this (or even Mercy) to 100% finished album tracks. They’re both clearly work-in-progress. Both likely in a macro sense (structure) and micro (the finer points of the arrangement or production), and definitely have not gotten to the ready-for-album final spit and shine. They’re even likely well before what would be considered the final ‘take’, either the various parts or the vocal.

For any of these left off (Winter, Mercy) or later re-imagined songs (e.g. Xanax, Native Son) you need to use your imagination to make up the 10-20% of work clearly still remaining. So with that in mind, the idea and feel of Winter sound great to me. The structure clearly needs some straightening out. The lyrics could do with another draft. And the quality of the sound - arrangement, production, mixing, and likely even each band members parts – of course they’d get fixed up between this version and an album, so I don’t even really consider those.

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07-16-2009, 05:10 PM	#2
alanah Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: It's not a hill..it's a mountain Posts: 4,064 Local Time: 06:14 AM	Winter is a terrific song! I like it more than Window in the Skies, Boots, Vertigo and many others songs...yeah, I said it.

07-16-2009, 06:11 PM	#4
alanah Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: It's not a hill..it's a mountain Posts: 4,064 Local Time: 06:14 AM	Sorry, I have never loved Vertigo.

07-16-2009, 07:03 PM	#6
alanah Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: It's not a hill..it's a mountain Posts: 4,064 Local Time: 06:14 AM	Well, lots of good songs has been left off in many U2 tours.

07-16-2009, 08:15 PM	#7
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,181 Local Time: 11:14 AM	You need to use your imagination on the version we have. I can see it has massive potential. What we have is disjointed and messy, but what we have is certainly not what they would have put on record anyway. Also, Eno’s description of it sounds almost nothing like what we have, so perhaps they’ve slipped us v1.0 and left a very different v2.0 up their sleeve. If they could smooth out the connections between the various sections of the song (it’s a bumpy ride as it is), tweak the lyrics, and then add the lush production it surely would have gotten if given the green light (or has in a newer version they’re holding back) I do like the overall feel, especially from the second “summer sings in me no more” on to the end, which I love. It’s really just the first half that needs the structural work. If it had made the album, I don’t see it as a closing track, more of a bridge song that could have provided a more smooth transition between the bombastic 00s U2 of the middle trio and the return to Eno land of Fez-Being Born. And yes, it’s potentially light years ahead of Vertigo.

07-16-2009, 08:29 PM	#8
Gonna Run 2 U War Child Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 829 Local Time: 11:14 AM	"Summer.. sings in me no more" (followed by pounding bass) <-- That is a defining U2 moment right there and i have a bad feeling in my stomach that Bono will change the lyric. I hope we get a proper release in the future.

07-16-2009, 08:32 PM	#9
gherman Refugee Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Ann Arbor, MI, USA Posts: 2,399 Local Time: 12:14 PM	Its ok at best Too choppy, all over the place, constructly poorly, bad vocals, nothing new and worst of all the begining sounds like that shit song Viva.

07-16-2009, 08:37 PM	#11
Heathcliff War Child Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Wandering... Posts: 615 Local Time: 09:14 AM	Pretty bland song, it needs more work. A billion times better than Mercy anyway, which is the worst thing U2 (almost - thank God) put on record.

07-16-2009, 11:06 PM	#12
ozeeko Refugee Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,403 Local Time: 11:14 AM	If you're a U2 fan that loves Coldplay, then this is your song. If you're a U2 fan that hates Coldplay...well u know the rest.

07-17-2009, 12:08 AM	#14
AtomicBono ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 10,475 Local Time: 06:14 AM	I really love Winter. Not better than a lot of NLOTH but once I got past the Viva La Vida intro (which they would be stupid to keep in if they release it on record) it grew on me a lot. I think it's a beautiful song. Definitely needs some work, especially in the lyric department (though I really like the chorus), but as Earnie said, the potential is there. summer sings in me no more ... that's such a U2 moment.

07-17-2009, 01:44 AM	#15
Earnie Shavers Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,181 Local Time: 11:14 AM	Yep. And you can’t really compare something like this (or even Mercy) to 100% finished album tracks. They’re both clearly work-in-progress. Both likely in a macro sense (structure) and micro (the finer points of the arrangement or production), and definitely have not gotten to the ready-for-album final spit and shine. They’re even likely well before what would be considered the final ‘take’, either the various parts or the vocal. For any of these left off (Winter, Mercy) or later re-imagined songs (e.g. Xanax, Native Son) you need to use your imagination to make up the 10-20% of work clearly still remaining. So with that in mind, the idea and feel of Winter sound great to me. The structure clearly needs some straightening out. The lyrics could do with another draft. And the quality of the sound - arrangement, production, mixing, and likely even each band members parts – of course they’d get fixed up between this version and an album, so I don’t even really consider those.