Culture of Violence:Gun Crime Up 89% in a Decade - Page 8

the iron horse · 11-05-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

I also blame Obama for Jeremy Piven's moobs-even though he claims they're from drinking too much soy milk.

It's just a good thing that the major at Fort Hood didn't have two pairs of scissors

It's a bad thing that the major at Fort Hood did not have moral code.
I guess we will see why he committed this murder.

Which is part the question I asked on this thread. What is is about our society that is fueling this violence?

A_Wanderer · 11-05-2009, 07:17 PM

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It's a bad thing that the major at Fort Hood did not have moral code.

Back up this statement.

the iron horse · 11-05-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by A_Wanderer

Back up this statement.

What!

Back up what statement?

A person kills people and wounds others and you want me to back up my post that this person has no moral code?

HyperU2 · 11-05-2009, 09:16 PM

Maybe he had a different code.

Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up' - Telegraph

Terrorists should know better than to use guns, we're used to that shit.

BVS · 11-05-2009, 11:05 PM

It will be interesting how the hawkish neo-cons will handle this story, I've already heard some very disturbing commentary on AM radio.

HyperU2 · 11-06-2009, 03:21 AM

I'll be looking forward to the apologists on the other side.

BVS · 11-06-2009, 07:28 AM

What apologists?

bigjohn2441 · 11-06-2009, 07:36 AM

US: we're sorry we've been sticking our nose in your business for the last 60 years or so. we're going to leave you alone now and we'll just stick to buying oil from you at a decent price.
Middle East: we're sorry for what happened on 9/11 and we accept your apology, we are willing to peacefully work together in the future.

UberBeaver · 11-06-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by the iron horse

Which is part the question I asked on this thread. What is is about our society that is fueling this violence?

My theory:

We are empty and miserable. We are led to believe that the more we have, the happier we will be, but that's not the case. Learning that is frustrating. We have no real role models. The ones we are provided are phony and either solve their problems with guns - legally or illegally - or they don't have "real" problems at all. As a society, we do not promote working through problems by facing the actual issue. We hold everyone else accountable for our "problems". When we don't have problems, we create them. We're a miserable lot that revels in and celebrates it. Just look at all these reality shows - these are the most unhappy, miserable, ungrateful, self loathing people on the planet - AND WE PAY THEM TO BE SO! And when we find someone that's not pissed off and miserable, we belittle them and blame them for our problems. We feel guilt for the things we have because deep down we know the cost, but don't want to admit to it - it's easier to blame "them over there" - and this guilt leads us to being ungrateful and unable to enjoy the things we have, which leads to frustration, anger, violence and denial. If we only had a few more dollars to play with, we could all get therapists....hey, let's LOWER TAXES!

I dunno. I'm a pretty happy person.

Mr. V · 11-06-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UberBeaver

My theory:

We are empty and miserable. We are led to believe that the more we have, the happier we will be, but that's not the case. Learning that is frustrating. We have no real role models. The ones we are provided are phony and either solve their problems with guns - legally or illegally - or they don't have "real" problems at all. As a society, we do not promote working through problems by facing the actual issue. We hold everyone else accountable for our "problems". When we don't have problems, we create them. We're a miserable lot that revels in and celebrates it. Just look at all these reality shows - these are the most unhappy, miserable, ungrateful, self loathing people on the planet - AND WE PAY THEM TO BE SO! And when we find someone that's not pissed off and miserable, we belittle them and blame them for our problems. We feel guilt for the things we have because deep down we know the cost, but don't want to admit to it - it's easier to blame "them over there" - and this guilt leads us to being ungrateful and unable to enjoy the things we have, which leads to frustration, anger, violence and denial. If we only had a few more dollars to play with, we could all get therapists....hey, let's LOWER TAXES!

I dunno. I'm a pretty happy person.

How is that exclusive to America?

bigjohn2441 · 11-06-2009, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberBeaver

My theory:

We are empty and miserable. We are led to believe that the more we have, the happier we will be, but that's not the case. Learning that is frustrating. We have no real role models. The ones we are provided are phony and either solve their problems with guns - legally or illegally - or they don't have "real" problems at all. As a society, we do not promote working through problems by facing the actual issue. We hold everyone else accountable for our "problems". When we don't have problems, we create them. We're a miserable lot that revels in and celebrates it. Just look at all these reality shows - these are the most unhappy, miserable, ungrateful, self loathing people on the planet - AND WE PAY THEM TO BE SO! And when we find someone that's not pissed off and miserable, we belittle them and blame them for our problems. We feel guilt for the things we have because deep down we know the cost, but don't want to admit to it - it's easier to blame "them over there" - and this guilt leads us to being ungrateful and unable to enjoy the things we have, which leads to frustration, anger, violence and denial. If we only had a few more dollars to play with, we could all get therapists....hey, let's LOWER TAXES!

I dunno. I'm a pretty happy person.

HyperU2 · 11-06-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BVS

What apologists?

Well generally when it's a Muslim on a rampage, like the one who decided to run over a bunch of folks in San Francisco, it quickly gets brushed under the rug. If it's anyone else, music, video games, and movies would come out as root causes.

BVS · 11-06-2009, 09:16 AM

I think you're officially paranoid.

Irvine511 · 11-06-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by A_Wanderer

Back up this statement.

he was a Muslim

but i'm still more scared of white teenagers with trench coats.

HyperU2 · 11-06-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BVS

I think you're officially paranoid.

I'm not one who fears inanimate objects.

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11-05-2009, 09:16 PM	#109
HyperU2 War Child Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Carlisle PA Posts: 818 Local Time: 07:06 PM	Maybe he had a different code. Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up' - Telegraph Terrorists should know better than to use guns, we're used to that shit.

11-06-2009, 03:21 AM	#111
HyperU2 War Child Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Carlisle PA Posts: 818 Local Time: 07:06 PM	I'll be looking forward to the apologists on the other side.

11-06-2009, 07:36 AM	#113
bigjohn2441 Refugee Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mosquito HQ Posts: 1,350 Local Time: 08:06 PM	US: we're sorry we've been sticking our nose in your business for the last 60 years or so. we're going to leave you alone now and we'll just stick to buying oil from you at a decent price. Middle East: we're sorry for what happened on 9/11 and we accept your apology, we are willing to peacefully work together in the future.