Obama General Discussion... (Part 2) - Page 5

Earnie Shavers · 08-10-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elevated_u2_fan

pardon me for my Canadian/socialist ignorance but why are you guys against universal health care exactly?

Because... wait... no, must be Australian/socialist ignorance, because I don't understand it either.

zooropop40 · 08-10-2009, 06:31 PM

Any respect for Mark Levin should be lost after watching this video:

Levin to female caller: "I don't know why your husband doesn't put a gun to his temple. Get the hell out of here" | Media Matters for America

zooropop40 · 08-10-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Earnie Shavers

Because... wait... no, must be Australian/socialist ignorance, because I don't understand it either.

well, to put it simply, most republicans are paranoid and uneducated. of course not all of them, but it seems those that are afraid of universal healthcare fall into the category of being frightened more of government than anything...including insurance companies

INDY500 · 08-10-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by zooropop40

well, to put it simply, most republicans are paranoid and uneducated.

Oh yes, quite agree. More Chablis darling? And unkempt as well. Mmmm, isn't this Brie to die for?

BVS · 08-10-2009, 07:02 PM

Mark Levin is a short sighted asshole...

BVS · 08-10-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zooropop40

well, to put it simply, most republicans are paranoid and uneducated. of course not all of them,

I don't think this is a fair statement. I think many of the far right will fall into this category, many of the tea partiers will fall into this category, but this is a small % of the Republican Party. I think the Republican's biggest fault is not being able to see big picture. Conservatism is nice in theory; if we were all straight, Christian, born on a level playing ground it might work more often, but even then it would still have issues at times.

BoMac · 08-10-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BVS

Conservatism is nice in theory...

Some might say that liberalism is nice in theory. People view things differently, obviously, but the truth is somewhere in the middle.

**yolland** · 08-10-2009, 07:29 PM

Come on guys, slinging around these kinds of caricatures--'conservatives' are like this, 'liberals' are like that--and getting into little tit-for-tat matches of who can dig up the biggest Outrage!!! quote aren't going to get us anywhere.

BVS · 08-10-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

Some might say that liberalism is nice in theory. People view things differently, obviously, but the truth is somewhere in the middle.

I completely agree.

zooropop40 · 08-10-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

Some might say that liberalism is nice in theory. .

Yea I think my quote about republicans was a bit harsh. I guess it seems that the small ignorant percentage seems to be the vocal chords for the entire party unfortunately.

Liberalism, as I see it, doesnt really have a set theory like conservatism does. Liberalism changes with the time, situations, evidence, etc... there is no set theory for liberalism which is why it is so hard for politicians to define being liberal and so easy for conservatives to make their point with a few short words.

phanan · 08-10-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elevated_u2_fan

pardon me for my Canadian/socialist ignorance but why are you guys against universal health care exactly?

They skipped you, elfa. You must not be important enough.

phanan · 08-10-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

It is my suspicion that many people confuse "socialism" with "communism", thus the fear that word generates.

Agreed.

I live in NH, and I work in Portsmouth, which just happens to be where Obama is coming tomorrow.

The local paper was interviewing a local business owner who is a Republican that puts different political messages on his sign all the time, right down the street from where I work:

Protesters ready to deliver message at Obama town hall forum | SeacoastOnline.com

I particularly found this line amusing:

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All my life I was taught that communism and socialism were what we were fighting against.

U2isthebest · 08-10-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by phanan

They skipped you, elfa. You must not be important enough.

I was going to respond, but I figured he was on his way out to a death panel meeting and wouldn't be back until he'd sealed the fate of a few babies and an old person. You betcha.

BVS · 08-10-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by phanan

Interesting that mold remediation is one of his means of profit...

It was once considered a liberal, over reactionary tort issue.

corianderstem · 08-10-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Irvine511

who has that animated picture of the stick people running around screaming "OH NOES" -- because that's what you do at the word "socialism."

08-10-2009, 07:29 PM	#68
yolland Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,847 Local Time: 08:49 PM	Come on guys, slinging around these kinds of caricatures--'conservatives' are like this, 'liberals' are like that--and getting into little tit-for-tat matches of who can dig up the biggest Outrage!!! quote aren't going to get us anywhere. __________________ yolland@interference.com μελετώ αποτυγχάνειν. -- Διογένης της Σινώπης

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zooropop40 Refugee Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Interference is called Interference because it interferes on my ability to live a normal life... Posts: 1,250 Local Time: 03:49 PM	Any respect for Mark Levin should be lost after watching this video: Levin to female caller: "I don't know why your husband doesn't put a gun to his temple. Get the hell out of here" \| Media Matters for America