heroin

UTDallas · 05-02-2009, 10:46 PM

It's been a theme in some of U2's best songs, and I'm intrigued by some of the things Bono has said. The way he describes the terrible sleep from the nod, or the feeling of being wrapped in wool -- these are things that only a user would know.

Anyway, it's not my goal to speculate about Bono. I'm just curious if anyone is willing to share their experience with the drug, whether personal or through friends/family.

Fernando- · 05-03-2009, 12:21 AM

This is a good topic. I'm not a drug user but I'm interested on knowing about them in order to know enough to stay away of them.

BAW · 05-03-2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by UTDallas

Anyway, it's not my goal to speculate about Bono. I'm just curious if anyone is willing to share their experience with the drug, whether personal or through friends/family.

My parents were both addicted for 20+ years. My childhood and teenage years were pure hell and I hate it when someone like Bono writes about it as if he has experienced it first hand. True, he may have watched some friends suffer through addiction, but I lived it and it's not the same thing at all.

I'm more than willing to share my experience with the drug, but I prefer doing it privately so feel free to PM me.

MsPurrl · 05-03-2009, 04:33 PM

Don't go there, UTDallas. 'Nuff said.

ybab gnuthca · 05-03-2009, 04:38 PM

Bono was very obviously on some kind of drugs during ZOO-TV. Shone through especially during the McPhisto performances. Could well be heroin.

cobl04 · 05-04-2009, 05:56 AM

They could also very easily have been just Bono, sober...

The Sad Punk · 05-04-2009, 06:42 AM

I have had friends addicted to gear, some are still addicted to it and overtime I've seen them less because of it, and it gets to the point that you forget what they were like when they were clean... I'm amazed that any of them have been able to quit.

I've never done it and I don't ever want to do it, it's just a selfish, evil drug and I sympathise with anyone who has to go through the pain of it, user, family or otherwise.

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Originally Posted by ybab gnuthca

Bono was very obviously on some kind of drugs during ZOO-TV. Shone through especially during the McPhisto performances. Could well be heroin.

This isn't EYKIW.

last unicorn · 05-04-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BAW

My parents were both addicted for 20+ years. My childhood and teenage years were pure hell and I hate it when someone like Bono writes about it as if he has experienced it first hand. True, he may have watched some friends suffer through addiction, but I lived it and it's not the same thing at all.

I'm more than willing to share my experience with the drug, but I prefer doing it privately so feel free to PM me.

I'm sorry to hear about your childhood, but a person (artist) should still be able to be emphatic and write about these things. Art would be nothing without empathy. If everyone would just write about what they experienced themselves, good art wouldn't exist. And I'm sure Bono knows what he's talking and writing about, from one point or the other, and I'm not going to speculate about this issue. We've had enough U2 and drugs topics recently.

That said, I also grew up with an addicted family member, I don't feel bad if someone like Bono writes about it, in fact I'm glad there are people who are sympathizing and not demonizing it or being moral about it.

ybab gnuthca · 05-04-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sad Punk

I have had friends addicted to gear, some are still addicted to it and overtime I've seen them less because of it, and it gets to the point that you forget what they were like when they were clean... I'm amazed that any of them have been able to quit.

I've never done it and I don't ever want to do it, it's just a selfish, evil drug and I sympathise with anyone who has to go through the pain of it, user, family or otherwise.

This isn't EYKIW.

Sorry, mum.

BVS · 05-04-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UTDallas

-- these are things that only a user would know.

Really? I know these things, it must mean I'm a user...

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Originally Posted by ybab gnuthca

Bono was very obviously on some kind of drugs during ZOO-TV.

I'm sorry, but this is a crap thread. You are not confessing anything. You state your opinion like it's fact and then say you aren't here to speculate... uh, that's what you just did. And then you ask others to share something as personal as this?

**Sicy** · 05-04-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BVS

I'm sorry, but this is a crap thread.

So maybe dont respond to it?

MooMoo! · 05-04-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ybab gnuthca

Bono was very obviously on some kind of drugs during ZOO-TV. Shone through especially during the McPhisto performances. Could well be heroin.

You dont seem especially sure of the effects of heroine if you think it *could* be. As far as Im a aware, heroine is a fairly incapacitating drug, so he wouldnt so much be jumping around the stage as he would be slouched on the floor.

And for someone who isn't too up on heroine, I fail to see how you "obviously" know hes on some sort of drug.

UTDallas · 05-04-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BVS

Really? I know these things, it must mean I'm a user..

I'm sorry, but this is a crap thread. You are not confessing anything. You state your opinion like it's fact and then say you aren't here to speculate... uh, that's what you just did. And then you ask others to share something as personal as this?

I don't understand the hostility over a simple thread on the internet, and agree with Sicy that it would've been easier just to move on. But since you did feel the need to respond, I'll address your concerns.

My initial point was that the way Bono describes heroin goes beyond something he learned from an internet search. There's an emotional facet to the lyrics that makes me feel like he experienced it himself. I said that I didn't want it to be about Bono, rather I wanted to hear from others who had been touchd by the drug to see if their response to the music was similar to mine.

I posted it in this forum because I didn't know exactly where to put it. This seemed like the most appropriate place. I didn't confess anything because I didn't want to write a long, detailed message if there wasn't going to be any response. I was trying to gauge interest in the topic. But if that's a requirement, then I confess that I'm a former user and I lost 9 friends to the drug before the age of 22.

Also, I don't think I did anything wrong in asking people to share their experiences, as they're free to say no, or simply move on to another thread.

MooMoo! · 05-04-2009, 04:56 PM

Out of interest, can I ask why you started? I cant think of any other reason than peer pressure at that age.

BVS · 05-04-2009, 05:01 PM

My apologies for the "hostility", it's just I thought threads like this have normally been closed in the past.

I'm not a big fan of people speculating about other personal lives.

Sorry about your loss, but I'm glad you found a way to leave the drug before it consumed you.

05-02-2009, 10:46 PM	#1
UTDallas The Fly Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 56 Local Time: 09:12 PM	heroin It's been a theme in some of U2's best songs, and I'm intrigued by some of the things Bono has said. The way he describes the terrible sleep from the nod, or the feeling of being wrapped in wool -- these are things that only a user would know. Anyway, it's not my goal to speculate about Bono. I'm just curious if anyone is willing to share their experience with the drug, whether personal or through friends/family.

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MsPurrl ONE love, blood, life Premium Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Heartland (Indiana, USA) Posts: 13,787 Local Time: 10:12 PM	Don't go there, UTDallas. 'Nuff said. __________________

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05-03-2009, 12:21 AM	#2
Fernando- Refugee Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: On the edge of the known universe Posts: 1,264 Local Time: 08:12 PM	This is a good topic. I'm not a drug user but I'm interested on knowing about them in order to know enough to stay away of them.

05-03-2009, 04:38 PM	#5
ybab gnuthca Acrobat Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 437 Local Time: 03:12 AM	Bono was very obviously on some kind of drugs during ZOO-TV. Shone through especially during the McPhisto performances. Could well be heroin.

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cobl04 acca dacca m8 Premium Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 2010 AFL THREAD Posts: 13,637 Local Time: 01:12 PM	They could also very easily have been just Bono, sober...

05-04-2009, 04:56 PM	#14
MooMoo! New Yorker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: MUTANT SPIDER THING. D=< Posts: 2,993 Local Time: 03:12 AM	Out of interest, can I ask why you started? I cant think of any other reason than peer pressure at that age.