I've been trying to hide this and too embarrassed about it, but today just did me in.

FitzChivalry · 09-15-2009, 06:14 PM

I feel like I ever only start depressing threads in ZOO Confessionals.

Anyway, so . . . my deep, dark secret that I've been trying to be vague about and evade questions about is that I've been, more or less, unemployed for over a year now.

I have two part-time attorney jobs, but they still don't add up nearly to what I would be making in a full-time attorney position. So I've been quietly struggling and getting by with these two part-time jobs while trying to find a full-time position at a firm.

So today, I had my second interview at a firm. Cool firm. Good salary. Good benefits. And the attorney that would be my boss, seemed to like me during our first interview, which lasted about an hour and a half. I thought the first interview went well.

Today was my interview with two main partners and then the attorney I interviewed with last week. From the comments that were made during the interview it sounded like, barring a complete fuck up on my part, they were ready to hire me at the end of the interview. And then the bomb dropped:

CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

The firm I do part-time work for now defends clients in lawsuits by Client X. Well, turns out, Client X is the NUMBER ONE client of the new firm I was interviewing with. Therefore, it would be unethical of me to work for the new firm, and they actually, because of their ethical duties to Client X, CANNOT hire me.

You should've seen the look on the face of the attorney who would've been my boss when this came out during the interview. His face mirrored the gut-wrenching sadness that was taking place inside my chest. I have had so few interviews in this economic climate. And not only did I feel good about this one, but they actually SAID they were ready to hire me!

The one who would've been my boss came up to me privately afterward and told me he was deeply sorry and that he really liked me, he liked my character and personality, he really wanted me to join the firm, and he was very sad it didn't work out.

I just tried to keep the fake smile plastered to my face so I wouldn't break down right then and there.

It's one thing if you interview and you don't do well or you're not qualified for the position or you're just not the right fit. But this? This is completely disheartening on a whole other level of Are you fucking kidding me!!!! I have been struggling for so long and I cannot believe the rug was pulled out from under me like this.

LIFE, I think you played a really cruel trick on me today.

**Sicy** · 09-15-2009, 06:40 PM

I'm sorry Ethan blah.

dsmith2904 · 09-15-2009, 06:51 PM

**Sicy** · 09-15-2009, 06:56 PM

Maybe its a sign that you should move over here...

indra · 09-15-2009, 07:45 PM

Oh no! That sucks! I'm so sorry this fell through.

Does that mean you can NEVER work for the company you interviewed with, or that you can't work for them within a certain period of time? (I have no clue how this stuff works)

And don't be embarrassed because you are unemployed right now. A lot of good people are out of work right now.

BonosLil'Pal94 · 09-15-2009, 07:59 PM

I'm sorry Ethan

I hope things start looking up soon!

Angela Harlem · 09-15-2009, 10:16 PM

God, what a shit turn of luck! Is there a way to keep this new firm on hold until your part time role has finished with Client X? I'm not sure what your legal/otherwise obligations are with conflicts of interest on such a scale. I know in the corporate world it is generally a year, but that is over here, and not in a legal environment.

I really hope something gives for you soon. That's just rotten luck.

anitram · 09-15-2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angela Harlem

God, what a shit turn of luck! Is there a way to keep this new firm on hold until your part time role has finished with Client X? I'm not sure what your legal/otherwise obligations are with conflicts of interest on such a scale. I know in the corporate world it is generally a year, but that is over here, and not in a legal environment.

It would obviously depend on your state, but I know that here, your duty of confidentiality survives the client relationship (forever). So there is no time expiry, and I would be really surprised if this were not the case everywhere.

That sucks, I'm sorry.

I am at a very large firm, so we use Chinese walls. I am guessing this is a very small firm where it would be impractical to do so.

Zoots · 09-16-2009, 12:36 AM

Ugh! That is terrible luck! But don't worry, I keep hearing that the US economy is on the rebound. I'm sure you'll find something soon!

Just don't stop trying!

GirlsAloudFan · 09-16-2009, 12:57 AM

That sucks Fitz. I'm sure things will work out soon and you will find yourself some good, comfortable employment. Best of luck.

Lila64 · 09-16-2009, 01:24 AM

So sorry to hear this Ethan.

Could or does the person that would have potentially been your boss have any recommendations or referrals for you?

RedRocksU2 · 09-16-2009, 01:26 AM

cobl04 · 09-16-2009, 03:23 AM

My god man, that's terrible. Hope it all works out for you in the long run

Purplereign · 09-16-2009, 04:47 AM

I hope the sun starts to shine for you soon

nicv · 09-16-2009, 10:47 AM

That is a horrible twist to deal with. It was obvious they liked you and it sounds like you have an outstanding resume, their loss. It won't be long before someone snatches you up!

Hang in there! We were not meant to carry those loads alone, so let it out to someone, anyone, even us crackheads

Nothing at all to be ashamed of

09-15-2009, 06:14 PM	#1
FitzChivalry Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Premium Silver Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: At the bottom of the ocean, in the deepest sea Posts: 5,025 Local Time: 09:17 AM	I've been trying to hide this and too embarrassed about it, but today just did me in. I feel like I ever only start depressing threads in ZOO Confessionals. Anyway, so . . . my deep, dark secret that I've been trying to be vague about and evade questions about is that I've been, more or less, unemployed for over a year now. I have two part-time attorney jobs, but they still don't add up nearly to what I would be making in a full-time attorney position. So I've been quietly struggling and getting by with these two part-time jobs while trying to find a full-time position at a firm. So today, I had my second interview at a firm. Cool firm. Good salary. Good benefits. And the attorney that would be my boss, seemed to like me during our first interview, which lasted about an hour and a half. I thought the first interview went well. Today was my interview with two main partners and then the attorney I interviewed with last week. From the comments that were made during the interview it sounded like, barring a complete fuck up on my part, they were ready to hire me at the end of the interview. And then the bomb dropped: CONFLICT OF INTEREST. The firm I do part-time work for now defends clients in lawsuits by Client X. Well, turns out, Client X is the NUMBER ONE client of the new firm I was interviewing with. Therefore, it would be unethical of me to work for the new firm, and they actually, because of their ethical duties to Client X, CANNOT hire me. You should've seen the look on the face of the attorney who would've been my boss when this came out during the interview. His face mirrored the gut-wrenching sadness that was taking place inside my chest. I have had so few interviews in this economic climate. And not only did I feel good about this one, but they actually SAID they were ready to hire me! The one who would've been my boss came up to me privately afterward and told me he was deeply sorry and that he really liked me, he liked my character and personality, he really wanted me to join the firm, and he was very sad it didn't work out. I just tried to keep the fake smile plastered to my face so I wouldn't break down right then and there. It's one thing if you interview and you don't do well or you're not qualified for the position or you're just not the right fit. But this? This is completely disheartening on a whole other level of Are you fucking kidding me!!!! I have been struggling for so long and I cannot believe the rug was pulled out from under me like this. LIFE, I think you played a really cruel trick on me today. __________________ *Why are those not in my mouth right now . . . but mostly Adam!*

09-15-2009, 06:40 PM	#2
Sicy Sizzlin' Sicilian Forum Administrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: runnin' down the road like loose electricity Posts: 62,643 Local Time: 09:17 AM	I'm sorry Ethan blah. __________________ sicy[at]interference.com

09-15-2009, 06:51 PM	#3
dsmith2904 ONE love, blood, life Premium Gold Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be Posts: 11,095 Local Time: 09:17 AM	__________________ Love is all you need

09-15-2009, 06:56 PM	#4
Sicy Sizzlin' Sicilian Forum Administrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: runnin' down the road like loose electricity Posts: 62,643 Local Time: 09:17 AM	Maybe its a sign that you should move over here... __________________ sicy[at]interference.com

09-15-2009, 07:45 PM	#5
indra eeky, who is very naughty Premium Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,973 Local Time: 12:17 PM	Oh no! That sucks! I'm so sorry this fell through. Does that mean you can NEVER work for the company you interviewed with, or that you can't work for them within a certain period of time? (I have no clue how this stuff works) And don't be embarrassed because you are unemployed right now. A lot of good people are out of work right now. __________________ i will twirl if i want to

09-15-2009, 07:59 PM	#6
BonosLil'Pal94 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In God's Country Posts: 11,243 Local Time: 08:17 AM	I'm sorry Ethan I hope things start looking up soon!

09-15-2009, 10:16 PM	#7
Angela Harlem Jesus Online Premium Gold Member Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: a glass castle Posts: 29,927 Local Time: 03:17 AM	God, what a shit turn of luck! Is there a way to keep this new firm on hold until your part time role has finished with Client X? I'm not sure what your legal/otherwise obligations are with conflicts of interest on such a scale. I know in the corporate world it is generally a year, but that is over here, and not in a legal environment. I really hope something gives for you soon. That's just rotten luck. __________________

09-16-2009, 12:36 AM	#9
Zoots Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: the great beyond Posts: 36,847 Local Time: 06:17 PM	Ugh! That is terrible luck! But don't worry, I keep hearing that the US economy is on the rebound. I'm sure you'll find something soon! Just don't stop trying!

09-16-2009, 12:57 AM	#10
GirlsAloudFan ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Revenge of the Giant Face Posts: 10,768 Local Time: 11:17 AM	That sucks Fitz. I'm sure things will work out soon and you will find yourself some good, comfortable employment. Best of luck.

09-16-2009, 01:24 AM	#11
Lila64 Blue Crack Supplier Premium Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ♥Set List Lane♥ Posts: 46,387 Local Time: 09:17 AM	So sorry to hear this Ethan. Could or does the person that would have potentially been your boss have any recommendations or referrals for you? __________________

09-16-2009, 01:26 AM	#12
RedRocksU2 Blue Crack Addict Premium Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Murrieta, Ca. Posts: 24,613 Local Time: 09:17 AM	__________________ If I ever do GA's again, no more of this 5 am line up shit.

09-16-2009, 03:23 AM	#13
cobl04 acca dacca m8 Premium Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 2010 AFL THREAD Posts: 13,643 Local Time: 03:17 AM	My god man, that's terrible. Hope it all works out for you in the long run

09-16-2009, 04:47 AM	#14
Purplereign ONE love, blood, life Premium Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: where I can Breathe . . . and it's Magnificent Posts: 13,617 Local Time: 03:17 AM	I hope the sun starts to shine for you soon __________________ *'You might just as well say, that "I breathe when I sleep" is the same thing as "I sleep when I breathe"!'*

09-16-2009, 10:47 AM	#15
nicv So She Woke Up Premium Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 16th of June Posts: 2,428 Local Time: 08:17 AM	That is a horrible twist to deal with. It was obvious they liked you and it sounds like you have an outstanding resume, their loss. It won't be long before someone snatches you up! Hang in there! We were not meant to carry those loads alone, so let it out to someone, anyone, even us crackheads Nothing at all to be ashamed of

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