Coldplay - Viva La Vida - ongoing discussion - Page 14

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

It is a dangerous position Laz. You really shouldn't think that way. Everyone has an equal right to express themselves.

Be mindful of your thoughts, Obi-Wan, they could betray you.

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by namkcuR

I think you're just making stuff up now. Laz did not, nor did anyone else, at any point say or even imply anything about who has or doesn't have the right to do anything. It was about INTEREST, and not the RIGHT. Two completely different things.

Yeah, I can't believe what I'm writing.

I'm not saying Martin shouldn't be allowed to do whatever, or put up against the wall and shot.

I'm just saying people shouldn't waste their time listening to it.

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMacPhisto

Be mindful of your thoughts, Obi-Wan, they could betray you.

You're right about one thing...

...the negotiations WERE short!

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zootlesque

I really want to agree with this but...

Coldplay = boring vocals + great music

Keane = great vocals + great music... just great all round!

IMO

That's cool, Zoots.

I still like about 5-6 of their songs, too.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 05:32 PM

I like Is It Any Wonder. The rest sounds as dull as the slowest parts of Parachutes, but without the great melodies.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

You're right about one thing...

...the negotiations WERE short!

Totally unrelated, but I'm still reeling over Bangs of New York. I found the perfect companion monologue to share. Perhaps I will later.

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

As for the influence of women, Screwtape, I love Paltrow, but she's just as privileged and whitebread as Martin. What's that gonna do for him?

Love is the most powerful emotion. It brings new and wonderful dreams. It makes you the most human you will ever be. Tapping into one's humanity is a creative force no matter what your mate is like.

VintagePunk · 06-26-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMacPhisto

That's where I think you're wrong.

Coldplay doesn't have a firm identity as a band other than the "band that sounds like everyone else." That's not saying I don't like their music or I feel that any band with obvious influences is terrible, but they can't reconcile those influences with an original enough sound to make them their own, you know? Having a "concept" doesn't negate the fact that they're still grasping for their own footing in the realm of rock music - as pompous as that may sound.

That was so beautifully articulated, it brought a tear to my eye. Every song I've heard off of Vida, I have this strong sensation of having heard it before. I find myself thinking "that sounds like....arrrgh, can't put my finger on it, but it sounds like someone, like something I've heard before." I find it really frustrating to listen to, so far.

Zootlesque · 06-26-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

I like Is It Any Wonder. The rest sounds as dull as the slowest parts of Parachutes, but without the great melodies.

Hamburg song has more melody in it's pinky than all of Parachutes!

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lazarus · 06-26-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

Love is the most powerful emotion. It brings new and wonderful dreams. It makes you the most human you will ever be. Tapping into one's humanity is a creative force no matter what your mate is like.

Wait a sec....are YOU Chris Martin?

/thread. I can't take the rest of this seriously anymore.

BoMac · 06-26-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

As for the influence of women, Screwtape, I love Paltrow, but she's just as privileged and whitebread as Martin. What's that gonna do for him?

I'm not so sure. I think we all, despite outward appearances, have internal demons and struggles. It's a part of being a human. You can come from the most privileged background but still suffer from depression or whatever and have some sort of insight to offer the world—to varying degrees.

The point is, you know next to nothing about Martin's life up until now. Sure he's rich, married a movie star etc...but you have no idea of what he went through, internally, during his formative years.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

That was so beautifully articulated, it brought a tear to my eye. Every song I've heard off of Vida, I have this strong sensation of having heard it before. I find myself thinking "that sounds like....arrrgh, can't put my finger on it, but it sounds like someone, like something I've heard before." I find it really frustrating to listen to, so far.

Thank you.

Yeah, but if you try and ignore that and take it as it is, it's a fairly good album. I still enjoy it.

Zootlesque · 06-26-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Wait a sec....are YOU Chris Martin?

/thread. I can't take the rest of this seriously anymore.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Wait a sec....are YOU Chris Martin?

/thread. I can't take the rest of this seriously anymore.

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

The point is, you know next to nothing about Martin's life up until now. Sure he's rich, married a movie star etc...but you have no idea of what he went through, internally, during his formative years.

The proof is in the pudding! If he's got demons, it's certainly not present in the tone of the music or the lyrics.

So he's a whitebread musician who only SEEMS bland on the surface, whereas in reality he's tormented, but doesn't put it into his work.

Interesting theory.

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