Coldplay - Viva La Vida - ongoing discussion - Page 15

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Wait a sec....are YOU Chris Martin?

/thread. I can't take the rest of this seriously anymore.

Chris Martin isn't that eloquent. And he clearly doesn't try to be.

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Wait a sec....are YOU Chris Martin?

/thread. I can't take the rest of this seriously anymore.

You know you love the romanticism.

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 05:39 PM

Screwtape, exactly how many colored band-aids do you have on your fingers?

FOR REELZ.

phanan · 06-26-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Fine, don't answer the question. Or do you like U2 despite Bono's writing over the years? I don't get what you're trying to prove.

I was being sarcastic because of how you use Bono against Chris Martin.

I admire what Bono went through as much as the next person, and those life experiences have had a deep impact on his music. Music that I love.

So Chris Martin didn't go through the same thing. That makes him and his music less significant? Bullshit. Music comes at us in different ways through different stories. Just because not everyone goes through what Bono did, or because they get married to a wife who just happens to be a famous actress, doesn't make them any less of a person, or their music.

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Originally Posted by lazarus

And I didn't make disparaging comments about New England, just New York City. Perhaps you missed the part where I said I lived in Boston for 5 years?

Oh no, I didn't miss it.

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Originally Posted by lazarus

I lived in Boston for 5 years, and I know they have an inferiority complex as well.

BoMac · 06-26-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

The proof is in the pudding! If he's got demons, it's certainly not present in the tone of the music or the lyrics.

So he's a whitebread musician who only SEEMS bland on the surface, whereas in reality he's tormented, but doesn't put it into his work.

Interesting theory.

I never said that he actually has demons. I mean that he COULD have, even though he's married to a movie star, privileged etc...

phanan · 06-26-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Screwtape, exactly how many colored band-aids do you have on your fingers?

FOR REELZ.

Oh please, should we break out pictures of U2 in their ZOOTV outfits?

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

The proof is in the pudding! If he's got demons, it's certainly not present in the tone of the music or the lyrics.

So he's a whitebread musician who only SEEMS bland on the surface, whereas in reality he's tormented, but doesn't put it into his work.

Interesting theory.

So songs like Politik with its tragic tone aren't a sign that there is a man with demons like the rest of us down there?

phanan · 06-26-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

So songs like Politik with its tragic tone aren't a sign that there is a man with demons like the rest of us down there?

Who gives a shit if a man has demons? Is that required to write good music?

I am having way too much fun in this thread.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

So songs like Politik with its tragic tone aren't a sign that there is a man with demons like the rest of us down there?

I think that song's great due more to the music than the lyrics/delivery, as is the case with most of their material, but that's just me. One of their better songs though.

VintagePunk · 06-26-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMacPhisto

Thank you.

Yeah, but if you try and ignore that and take it as it is, it's a fairly good album. I still enjoy it.

Yeah, maybe it'll take a few more listens to get past that, but for now, all I can do is play the "who the hell does that sound like?" game. One of your later posts mentions taking bits and pieces from various sources, and I agree, that for parts of a song, it'll sound like one influence, and then in the next part, the switch to another, and so on. I agree with all the influences you listed, and in addition, the other day I also heard a snippet that reminded me of Genesis. It's distracting me from enjoying the songs on their own merits.

I also agree that overall, I like (note: not love) Coldplay, they're decent. They just need to find their own groove, which, IMO, they were closest to with ROBTTH.

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

Screwtape, exactly how many colored band-aids do you have on your fingers?

FOR REELZ.

You don't call retarded people retards. It's in bad taste. You call your friends retarded when they act retarded. I consider Laz a friend.

namkcuR · 06-26-2008, 05:45 PM

When the frontman of a band publicly states that they tried to make this album their 'Unforgettable Fire', you can't blame anyone here for saying Coldplay lacks originality.

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by phanan

Who gives a shit if a man has demons? Is that required to write good music?

I am having way too much fun in this thread.

We actually are in agreement. I'm just saying there is some sign that Chris Everett is human beneath the exterior.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by VintagePunk

Yeah, maybe it'll take a few more listens to get past that, but for now, all I can do is play the "who the hell does that sound like?" game. One of your later posts mentions taking bits and pieces from various sources, and I agree, that for parts of a song, it'll sound like one influence, and then in the next part, the switch to another, and so on. I agree with all the influences you listed, and in addition, the other day I also heard a snippet that reminded me of Genesis. It's distracting me from enjoying the songs on their own merits.

I also agree that overall, I like (note: not love) Coldplay, they're decent. They just need to find their own groove, which, IMO, they were closest to with ROBTTH.

Yeah, when they can do that, they can be something truly special, in my opinion of course.

Rush of Blood has turned out to be my favorite album of theirs, after loving Parachutes for a longer time, but how many melancholic albums full of 5-minute semi-rock anthems can you do? A great album, but lightning in a bottle at this point, it seems.

phanan · 06-26-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by namkcuR

When the frontman of a band publicly states that they tried to make this album their 'Unforgettable Fire', you can't blame anyone here for saying Coldplay lacks originality.

Oh, I'll be the first to admit that he makes some stupid comments. Doesn't mean the music sucks more because of it. The first two Oasis albums are classics, but we could certainly dig up all of their comments when they mouthed off about The Beatles. Doesn't make me like the music any less.

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06-26-2008, 05:39 PM	#213
lazarus Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 7,226 Local Time: 09:43 PM	Screwtape, exactly how many colored band-aids do you have on your fingers? FOR REELZ.

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namkcuR Size matters not Premium Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 7,681 Local Time: 12:43 AM	When the frontman of a band publicly states that they tried to make this album their 'Unforgettable Fire', you can't blame anyone here for saying Coldplay lacks originality.