Coldplay - Viva La Vida - ongoing discussion - Page 16

BoMac · 06-26-2008, 05:49 PM

I wonder if some of us would feel the way we do about Coldplay if all of the press, negative or positive, would be so readily available for us? I mean, there are countless reviews out there that say that Coldplay is derivative from U2, Radiohead etc.

But there are so many bands out there, that don't nearly get the same level of press that Coldplay does, that I listen to and enjoy, but think to myself: "Where have I heard this before? This song sounds like something else I've heard." There are so many out there, but because C-Play (

) is in the public eye I think it's different for them.

Popmartijn · 06-26-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

Oh well, I tried. But yeah, unlike Beav, I don't think Coldplay is a record label creation. Just a well-intentioned band who occasionally writes a terrible song that sells far better than it should (I don't care for In My Place either). The Coldplay formula works, but I don't think they're trying to exploit it.

From what I've read about their start, you're quite correct. When Coldplay were signed to their label, the label figured they'd sell about 50,000 copies of their debut and that the band would grow slowly but steadily with their next few albums. I mean, mid-tempo piano songs weren't the big thing in 1999/2000.
Instead, Coldplay sold about 5 million copies of Parachutes worldwide.

And now there are several bands around heavily influenced by Coldplay (Keane and what's that other band that earlier this year made a virtual Coldplay sound-a-like single? I believe they were called Melee or something like that).

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by phanan

Oh, I'll be the first to admit that he makes some stupid comments. Doesn't mean the music sucks more because of it. The first two Oasis albums are classics, but we could certainly dig up all of their comments when they mouthed off about The Beatles. Doesn't make me like the music any less.

Yeah just look at Bono's silly comments about the last two U2 albums. It isn't like they were bad albums. Uh...nevermind.

BoMac · 06-26-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

We actually are in agreement. I'm just saying there is some sign that Chris Everett is human beneath the exterior.

YouTube - Jim Rome vs Jim Everett

phillyfan26 · 06-26-2008, 05:51 PM

Can I just say that background aside, I just don't find Chris Martin interesting? Or do I have to have a bigger reason than lack of lyrical talent and lack of vocal talent to join this discussion?

Screwy: Clarification for you. Laz is not saying that if it was up to him, Chrissy wouldn't have the right to express himself. He's saying that if it was up to him, Chrissy wouldn't be successful.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

I wonder if some of us would feel the way we do about Coldplay if all of the press, negative or positive, would be so readily available for us? I mean, there are countless reviews out there that say that Coldplay is derivative from U2, Radiohead etc.

But there are so many bands out there, that don't nearly get the same level of press that Coldplay does, that I listen to and enjoy, but think to myself: "Where have I heard this before? This song sounds like something else I've heard." There are so many out there, but because C-Play (

) is in the public eye I think it's different for them.

Oh most definitely, then Rob would truly be a source of information about C-Play, short for CrackingPlay.

phillyfan26 · 06-26-2008, 05:53 PM

"Clocks" is the closest they got to a definitive sound.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phillyfan26

"Clocks" is the closest they got to a definitive sound.

And they just kept making it bigger, and bigger, and bigger, until eventually even Bono had to blush.

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

YouTube - Jim Rome vs Jim Everett

Great clip.

Chris Everett was an attempt at creating another Chris Martin nickname. It needs work.

phanan · 06-26-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

YouTube - Jim Rome vs Jim Everett

Classic.

Popmartijn · 06-26-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by namkcuR

When the frontman of a band publicly states that they tried to make this album their 'Unforgettable Fire', you can't blame anyone here for saying Coldplay lacks originality.

And your posting this on a U2 board? A band whose frontman has said numerous times that one of their album is like this or that album (or like The Beatles/Sex Pistols/David Bowie). How original...

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 05:56 PM

Jim Rome getting smacked down is already great to see.

namkcuR · 06-26-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

Yeah just look at Bono's silly comments about the last two U2 albums. It isn't like they were bad albums. Uh...nevermind.

It's not the same thing. Saying your record is 'punk rock from venus' or any of those hyperbolic things Bono says, is not the same as saying that you deliberately tried to make your album sound like another band's album.

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by phanan

Oh please, should we break out pictures of U2 in their ZOOTV outfits?

One is theatricality. COMPLETELY over the top. Martin wearing his version of nail polish is just...cheesy.

GibsonGirl · 06-26-2008, 05:59 PM

When you guys blast Chrissy for his lyrics, just think about this: you're all on a forum dedicated to the band whose chief songwriter managed to make "voice" rhyme with "tortoise."

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BoMac I could care less Premium Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Hey, chicken, how's it hanging? A lot of people want to eat you, but I just want to talk to you, OK? Posts: 6,944 Local Time: 10:42 PM	I wonder if some of us would feel the way we do about Coldplay if all of the press, negative or positive, would be so readily available for us? I mean, there are countless reviews out there that say that Coldplay is derivative from U2, Radiohead etc. But there are so many bands out there, that don't nearly get the same level of press that Coldplay does, that I listen to and enjoy, but think to myself: "Where have I heard this before? This song sounds like something else I've heard." There are so many out there, but because C-Play ( ) is in the public eye I think it's different for them. __________________

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06-26-2008, 05:59 PM	#240
GibsonGirl ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 13,068 Local Time: 02:12 AM	When you guys blast Chrissy for his lyrics, just think about this: you're all on a forum dedicated to the band whose chief songwriter managed to make "voice" rhyme with "tortoise."