Coldplay - Viva La Vida - ongoing discussion - Page 17

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by namkcuR

It's not the same thing. Saying your record is 'punk rock from venus' or any of those hyperbolic things Bono says, is not the same as saying that you deliberately tried to make your album sound like another band's album.

And Bono always talks about a confluence, never something like "ATYCLB is our Abbey Road" or some such bullshit.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Popmartijn

From what I've read about their start, you're quite correct. When Coldplay were signed to their label, the label figured they'd sell about 50,000 copies of their debut and that the band would grow slowly but steadily with their next few albums. I mean, mid-tempo piano songs weren't the big thing in 1999/2000.
Instead, Coldplay sold about 5 million copies of Parachutes worldwide.

And now there are several bands around heavily influenced by Coldplay (Keane and what's that other band that earlier this year made a virtual Coldplay sound-a-like single? I believe they were called Melee or something like that).

Yep, success fell right into their lap. They didn't have to chase after it. I don't think they've necessarily rested on their laurels either. I just don't think they're all that versatile of a band.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GibsonGirl

When you guys blast Chrissy for his lyrics, just think about this: you're all on a forum dedicated to the band whose chief songwriter managed to make "voice" rhyme with "tortoise."

Not a good argument. Bono has 2 or 3 albums where he hasn't been awesome. Chrissy has........all of his albums.

phanan · 06-26-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

One is theatricality. COMPLETELY over the top. Martin wearing his version of nail polish is just...cheesy.

If you say so.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GibsonGirl

When you guys blast Chrissy for his lyrics, just think about this: you're all on a forum dedicated to the band whose chief songwriter managed to make "voice" rhyme with "tortoise."

This is incredibly true.

But, one's on a lame rock song while "writing a song a hundred miles long" is on what's supposed to be a heartfelt ballad. The "heavy as a truck" line in "Electrical Storm" is far more egregious, that's for sure.

Why I feel the need to argue with everyone today, I just don't know.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 06:02 PM

Double post.

Popmartijn · 06-26-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

The proof is in the pudding! If he's got demons, it's certainly not present in the tone of the music or the lyrics.

Define demons and how it should be present in music.
Chris Martin certainly has his insecurities he's writing about. In fact, it's a recurring theme in his lyrics. The review of Viva La Vida in Q magazine said it quite aptly: The gist of most Coldplay songs - "Oh no!" followed by "Chin up!" - is write large across Viva La Vida...

Not everyone is like Thom "Woe me I'm successful!" Yorke and his non-sensical gibberish.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMacPhisto

Reason: Love is a powerful emotion.

GibsonGirl · 06-26-2008, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

Not a good argument. Bono has 2 or 3 albums where he hasn't been awesome. Chrissy has........all of his albums.

The difference, though, is that Chrissy is improving whereas Bono is rapidly declining. Also, Bono's lyrical talent only really began to shine through with parts of UF / the majority of JT.

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 06:05 PM

Another review:

Washington Times - Coldplay homage to U2

Check the opening. Gibson Girl gotta write a letter to the editor so people keep making these crazy Streets comparisons!

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMacPhisto

This is incredibly true.

But, one's on a lame rock song while "writing a song a hundred miles long" is on what's supposed to be a heartfelt ballad. The "heavy as a truck" line in "Electrical Storm" is far more egregious, that's for sure.

Why I feel the need to argue with everyone today, I just don't know.

I also want to mention the "When hip-hop drove the big cars, in the time of new media, it was the big idea" part from Kite.

I want to say that Bono's best is light years better than Martin but Martin's worst is better than Bono's worst.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GibsonGirl

The difference, though, is that Chrissy is improving whereas Bono is rapidly declining. Also, Bono's lyrical talent only really began to shine through with parts of UF / the majority of JT.

October's a fairly big achievement, too, since he made up most of those lyrics on the spot, apparently.

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GibsonGirl

The difference, though, is that Chrissy is improving whereas Bono is rapidly declining. Also, Bono's lyrical talent only really began to shine through with parts of UF / the majority of JT.

Bono also was around for almost 20 years before that decline.

We'll see where Martin is at that point--hopefully no longer polluting the airwaves.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

I also want to mention the "When hip-hop drove the big cars, in the time of new media, it was the big idea" part from Kite.

I want to say that Bono's best is light years better than Martin but Martin's worst is better than Bono's worst.

I hate that line from "Kite" as well, but the rest is so damn good.

Bono's best > Chrissy's best
Bono's worst > Chrissy's worst

That doesn't mean either of them haven't had their share of accomplishments, which Bono clearly wins, but that's not even worth comparing, and shit between the both of them.

GirlsAloudFan · 06-26-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

I want to say that Bono's best is light years better than Martin but Martin's worst is better than Bono's worst.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe.

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lazarus Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 7,226 Local Time: 10:18 PM	Another review: Washington Times - Coldplay homage to U2 Check the opening. Gibson Girl gotta write a letter to the editor so people keep making these crazy Streets comparisons!