Zootlesque

Heavy as a drug FTW!

Zootlesque

Let's all give Coldplay a break! They're getting better and better with every album!


I tried. lol.

lazarus

So WHAT about "musically speaking"?! Most people aren't musicians. If it conjures up the feeling where the listener thinks "damn, this reminds me of Streets", then it doesn't matter! Rip-off, appropriation, homage, whatever you want to call it, it's sloppy and unoriginal, ESPECIALLY when you've already been accused of aping the band in question!

Can we not talk about Electrical Storm, please? It makes my head hurt.

They should have given that one to Coldplay as a gift.

VintagePunk

lol, anything but truck!

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GibsonGirl

Holy shit, Lazarus, are you always this angry?

"Rip-off" is a strong phrase if you're a musician. Unless large portions of the music/vocal delivery are plagiarised, you CANNOT use that term. Was Life In Technicolor inspired by Streets? Probably. Is it a rip-off of Streets? Not at all.

namkcuR

Ok, I take the point about posting lyrics that were further along in Bono's career than Martin is in his. Setting 2000 as Coldplay's startpoint, Martin is in his ninth year.

Setting 1980 as Bono's startpoint, 1988 was his ninth year. In 1988, All I Want Is You was released. Martin has yet to release anything even close to as lyrically substantial as that.

"you say you'll give me/eyes in a moon of blindness/a river in a time of dryness/a harbour in the tempest/but all the promises we make/from the cradle to the grave/when all I want is you"

Just thought I'd say that.

Screwtape2

This struck me as funny because a U2 example comes to mind. HMTMKMKM sounds an awful lot like David Bowie's Panic In Detriot. Bono and the band idolized and wanted to sound like Bowie. I'm just saying.

Sicy

I didn't say I was locking it. I'd actually rather have it all in one thread vs. various threads scattered throughout EYKIW.

And as long as everyone is debating in a respectable manner, enjoy your fun.

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Zootlesque

Agreed! Boy thru R&H is good enough to be a band's entire discography IMO!

Zootlesque

And let's face it, guys... Coldplay's strength is in melodies, not lyrics!

LemonMelon

Honestly, the Chris Martin/Bono comparisons are absolutely ridiculous, and this conversation really should be put to rest.

You say that Chrissy has only been writing for 8 years (11, actually, since Coldplay was formed in 1997), and that he should be given time to develop. Fair enough. If we're comparing the two, however, it's also fair to only use Bono's first 8 years of work, 1980-1987 as the only example. Unfortunately for Chrissy, in those 8 years, Bono wrote:

• I Will Follow
• Rejoice
• Tomorrow
• Sunday Bloody Sunday
• New Year's Day
• A Sort Of Homecoming
• Pride (In The Name Of Love)
• Bad
• Where The Streets Have No Name
• I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
• With Or Without You
• Running To Stand Still
• One Tree Hill

What the fuck has Chris Martin done that even comes close to matching that in his first 8 years? Furthermore, what has Chris Martin done that even matches a modern classic like Beautiful Day, a song supposedly written after Bono's peak as a lyricist? Come on. He's not that good. Don't compare the two.

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lazarus

This isn't a legal proceeding. They aren't being sued. It's just lame to be considered a U2-lite, then you hire their frequent collaborator and open your album with a track that brings STRONG recollections of another famous Track 1.

Call it what you want. C-Play aren't very original, so to me they've made a career of ripping them off, in one way or another.

namkcuR

I don't hear that. I mean, there's a slight resemblance in the riff in PID's chorus, and I suppose they're somewhat stylistically similar, but I don't see where they sound 'an awful lot' alike.

angelordevil

lazarus, why do you insist on posting so many reviews for ammunition? Unlike you, GG never relies on the words of others to validate her opinions.

I feel like I'm exceeding my carbon footprint by adding anything else, but here goes! This album is like a sandwich from a store I was never really fond of before. Only this time, they’ve added a few new things to finally make a sandwich that's worth eating. There are ingredients that are found in other things I like: A bit of Arcade Fire meat, Bunnymen mustard, early U2 atmospheric sesame seeds. The overall impression is that it's tasty, and that it's at least a sincere, heartfelt effort to create something good. I appreciate that. The sandwich maker will probably never have his/her own cooking show, or crack the Sandwich Hall of Fame. We both know this, but it's okay.

Liking said sandwich, and the way it goes down, is a personal choice.

If you stand in front of the sandwich display, and mumble about why you don’t like the one I just bought, I’ll probably think that you need some help.

Screwtape2

Okay Bono is a better lyricist than Chris Martin. Chris Martin isn't the best lyricist when you compare him to Bono. But keep in mind that when comparing Bono to other lyricists he is sort of the Chris Martin of the group.

He isn't in the same ballpark as Kate Bush, Roger Waters, Sting, Tori Amos, Peter Gabriel and the list goes on and on.