Coldplay - Viva La Vida - ongoing discussion - Page 42

LemonMelon · 07-13-2008, 12:42 PM

I think the greater issue here is not CMart's ridiculous hand gestures (Bono is as guilty of this as anyone) but, rather, the fact that I've never heard him top his album vocal of a given song in a live setting, ever. Bono consistently does it, and used to do it every night during the tour for his band's fourth album.

Rob, if you want to bash Martin, your argument should be that he simply isn't as good of a vocalist as Bono. I'd back you up on that all day.

LemonMacPhisto · 07-13-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by powerhour24

And he's married to a gorgeous woman so I don't think he had trouble there either.

At least I wasn't kidding around or anything.

Oh God, Bono was in another world of obnoxious during "An Cat Dubh;" I literally had to cover my eyes during that part of the DVD out of embarrassment.

Someone needs to tell him that imitating birds and cats on-stage isn't exactly a turn-on. Then I see C-Mart of C-Play doing a similar thing. Antics aside, I'm still not too interested in seeing them live, all things considering.

vaz02 · 07-13-2008, 05:36 PM

Champ is gonna have such bad back problemd later in his career if he continues to play like that.

xaviMF22 · 07-13-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob33

I think Martin's on stage antics come off as very unnatural... whereas Bono, no matter how annoying he can be, it still boils down to breaking down barriers between U2 and the audience, or more specifically, the audience and the song...I mean Chris Martin just sort of bounces around like an idiot in every single song....maybe I haven't watched enough live Coldplay video....but it sure seems like this is the case.

what a load of crap

Zootlesque · 07-13-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xaviMF22

what a load of crap

Haha that's what it sounds like! A bunch of BS and making up excuses to defend Bono's incredibly embarrassing antics! A Coldplay fan on a Coldplay board would probably defend the "jumping around like an idiot" comment too.

intedomine · 07-13-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by angelordevil

YouTube - COLDPLAY-Lost (live at The Daily Show 2008)

Breathtaking song, quite brilliant.

LemonMacPhisto · 07-13-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob33

in this video of An Cat Dubh on the Vertigo Tour...at the very end, Adam shakes Edge's hand....not a big deal, I just found it very peculiar...anyone have an answer?

I think you're onto something here...

blueeyedgirl · 07-13-2008, 08:12 PM

But what about all that Bono/Edge slash???

Got Philk? · 07-13-2008, 08:24 PM

If I can chime in on this stage presence idea. All Chris Martin needs to do is start dancing like Peter Garrett of the band Midnight Oil. That'll get the crowd going.

angelordevil · 07-13-2008, 08:58 PM

If 'jumping around and looking like an idiot while singing' is a crime, I'm in big trouble.

LemonMelon · 07-13-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zootlesque

Haha that's what it sounds like! A bunch of BS and making up excuses to defend Bono's incredibly embarrassing antics! A Coldplay fan on a Coldplay board would probably defend the "jumping around like an idiot" comment too.

But CMart's antics are equally embarrassing; don't forget that. You live by the Bono, you die by the Bono.

The problem with Chrissy is that he's too obtuse to correctly channel his hero. Bono had to think up those moves himself, finding flags to wave around and making his own mistakes, occasionally hitting paydirt. Rather than copying the moves, Martin should be copying the method Bono took and find his own (occasionally embarrassing) road.

(Hint: hand gestures are Bono's road. Avoid those if at all possible, partially because they've become a Bono trademark, and partially because you should only embarrass yourself occasionally.)

xaviMF22 · 07-13-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

But CMart's antics are equally embarrassing; don't forget that. You live by the Bono, you die by the Bono.

The problem with Chrissy is that he's too obtuse to correctly channel his hero. Bono had to think up those moves himself, finding flags to wave around and making his own mistakes, occasionally hitting paydirt. Rather than copying the moves, Martin should be copying the method Bono took and find his own (occasionally embarrassing) road.

(Hint: hand gestures are Bono's road. Avoid those if at all possible, partially because they've become a Bono trademark, and partially because you should only embarrass yourself occasionally.)

LemonMelon · 07-13-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xaviMF22

Wow, xavi, you've certainly gotten more eloquent in your months away from inteference. Your lack of reliance on drool smilies and the word "bitches" is encouraging.

angelordevil · 07-13-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

Your lack of reliance on drool smilies and the word "bitches" is encouraging.

Hey, that's his trademark.

U2inUtah · 07-13-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Philk?

If I can chime in on this stage presence idea. All Chris Martin needs to do is start dancing like Peter Garrett of the band Midnight Oil. That'll get the crowd going.

Ha ha, nobody was as bad as PG, but it was quite entertaining to watch at a live Oils show.

Heres some good Peter Garrett dancing about 2:10

YouTube - (Wouldn't) read about it - Midnight Oil

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07-13-2008, 05:36 PM	#618
vaz02 Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: manchester Posts: 6,098 Local Time: 06:06 AM	Champ is gonna have such bad back problemd later in his career if he continues to play like that.

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blueeyedgirl Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bottom of the earth Posts: 4,306 Local Time: 04:36 PM	But what about all that Bono/Edge slash???

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Got Philk? One Big Gummy Bear Premium Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bono's Preschool Posts: 5,561 Local Time: 01:06 AM Images: 2	If I can chime in on this stage presence idea. All Chris Martin needs to do is start dancing like Peter Garrett of the band Midnight Oil. That'll get the crowd going.

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angelordevil Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: No Hidden Path Posts: 5,282 Local Time: 02:36 AM	If 'jumping around and looking like an idiot while singing' is a crime, I'm in big trouble.