Coldplay - Viva La Vida - ongoing discussion - Page 7

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

You can say something like: "I don't like Coldplay because of XYZ." Or: "I think Fixed You is the worst song on X & Y because it's a contrived attempt a creating that epic ballad." Or something along those lines.

That's perfectly acceptable. But for me, when someone says those things but adds on stuff like (I'm paraphrasing, of course): "I can't believe you don't see it! How can you not hear it?! What the hell is wrong with you?!" That's crossing the line, in my opinion.

And therein lies the difference, and that, to me, is where the "music is subjective" argument comes in. I don't hear "it" because we all process music differently.

I getcha.

elevated_u2_fan · 06-26-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BoMac

You can say something like: "I don't like Coldplay because of XYZ....

Or in Mel's case X&Y

GirlsAloudFan · 06-26-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

a busker covering AROBTTH in its entirety > X&Y

Nice.

You did that cartoon too LM? That is some quality stuff right there. You're a talented dude for sure.

Coldplay themselves are cartoons so it figures that the best possible way to make fun of them would be with a cartoon.

phanan · 06-26-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan

Nice.

You did that cartoon too LM? That is some quality stuff right there. You're a talented dude for sure.

Coldplay themselves are cartoons so it figures that the best possible way to make fun of them would be with a cartoon.

You should see his U2 ones.

UberBeaver · 06-26-2008, 04:12 PM

I don't like Coldplay because they sound the a record companies version of radio friendly Radiohead, ie, they have no real sound of their own, just a "Lite" version of what's around. Which can also be said about most bands, I think.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by phanan

You should see his U2 ones.

You go to the webpage for them if you click my sig.

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phanan · 06-26-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMelon

You go to the webpage for them if you click my sig.

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Nice.

elevated_u2_fan · 06-26-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UberBeaver

I don't like Coldplay because they sound the a record companies version of radio friendly Radiohead, ie, they have no real sound of their own, just a "Lite" version of what's around. Which can also be said about most bands, I think.

Laz, is that you?

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by UberBeaver

I don't like Coldplay because they sound the a record companies version of radio friendly Radiohead, ie, they have no real sound of their own, just a "Lite" version of what's around. Which can also be said about most bands, I think.

You can't be serious. They don't sound anything like Radiohead. No real sound? They are the sound of the human spirit whether it be in agony, joy, acceptance or awakening. It is pure and honest emotion. It is an amazing sound if you are willing to listen.

LemonMacPhisto · 06-26-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

Fix You is the one example of the band trying to have a hit I'll give you that but stuff like Low, X&Y, Square One and others are thought out and creative. They almost had a concept album. If that isn't artistic I don't what is.

But the songs still suck. All three that you mentioned. There are some songs on that album I still like ("The Hardest Part," "A Message," "'Til Kingdom Come"), but the rest is pretty forgettable, to me at least.

Having a concept album doesn't mean you're artistic. Green Day's last album was a concept album, doesn't make them artistic.

The cycle of art makes them artistic.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

No real sound? They are the sound of the human spirit whether it be in agony, joy, acceptance or awakening. It is pure and honest emotion.

UberBeaver · 06-26-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

They are the sound of the human spirit whether it be in agony, joy, acceptance or awakening.

OHHHHH - I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about Coldplay.

Screwtape2 · 06-26-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonMacPhisto

But the songs still suck. All three that you mentioned.

Having a concept album doesn't mean you're artistic. Green Day's last album was a concept album, doesn't make them artistic.

The cycle of art makes them artistic.

It does mean however that you are going for a statement and something artistic. It might not end up artistic but they are trying. At least they try when so many artists, U2 included, don't try for something more anymore.

LemonMelon · 06-26-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

At least they try when so many artists, U2 included, don't try for something more anymore.

Condescending much?

Viva sounds like any other Coldplay album except with a larger budget and slightly better lyrics. There's no concept. And there sure as hell isn't a concept on X&Y, which is just as singles-based as HTDAAB. Even Chris Martin himself realizes these things. I just can't fathom how Coldplay of all bands cares more about art than U2. Sounds like bias to me.

lazarus · 06-26-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Screwtape2

They are the sound of the human spirit whether it be in agony, joy, acceptance or awakening. It is pure and honest emotion. It is an amazing sound if you are willing to listen.

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UberBeaver Dayman. Ahh Ah Ahhhh. Premium Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fighting the Nightman. Ah Ahh Ah. Posts: 18,066 Local Time: 12:49 AM Images: 1	I don't like Coldplay because they sound the a record companies version of radio friendly Radiohead, ie, they have no real sound of their own, just a "Lite" version of what's around. Which can also be said about most bands, I think.