Ryan Adams - Easy Tiger, Cardinology, Etc. - Page 25

**Bonochick** · 09-28-2007, 11:14 AM

Yeah, I was just reading about the show at the Archive. 65 minutes? Yikes. I mean, I know some people were crabby at the 90 minutes, and I was fine with those shows...but 65 would leave me kind of disappointed. It sounds like there were sound issues, but it still sucks.

I guess at least take some joy in getting "Shakedown" though, that is awesome.

**Bonochick** · 09-28-2007, 02:21 PM

And on CNN's front page...and currently the most viewed story..."Ryan Adams has meltdown at concert".

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Musi....ap/index.html

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (AP) -- Ryan Adams pitched another fit for a Minneapolis audience, a few years after his last local meltdown.

Throughout a show Thursday night, the 32-year-old singer-guitarist complained about the sound monitors onstage at the State Theatre. At one point, he moved two monitors, his microphone and his guitar pedals.

After 70 minutes he'd had enough. Adams announced "the last song," played it and didn't return for an encore. Many fans stood and booed.

"I don't know what the story was," guitarist Neal Casal told the Star Tribune afterward. "I just play guitar."

In 2003, Adams gave a famously bad performance at First Avenue, a rambling two-hour show where he griped about the sound system, played several songs twice and lambasted local rock legend Paul Westerberg.

BonoIsMyMuse · 09-28-2007, 02:33 PM

I'd really hoped that he'd stop stunts like this when he gave up drinking. This is a lot of the reason why I've stopped being a big fan. It seems like when you go to see him, you either get an amazing performance or one where he throws a tantrum and doesn't play the whole set. You have to wonder how many people left that show last night vowing to never see him again. I surely would have. He played long enough that the venue can't issue refunds, but not really long enough for people to have gotten their money's worth. It reminds me of the night back in 2005 when I walked out of one of his shows because he was arguing with the crowd more than he was playing. As it turns out, the crowd booed him off the stage not long after I left. Just when he was starting to possibly win me back, this happens.

It's disappointing, because he's a terrific performer, but he's going to keep losing fans if he doesn't knock this crap off. That moody artist persona was charming for awhile, but it's gotten old.

**Bonochick** · 09-28-2007, 03:12 PM

Not that I'm gonna defend Ryan like he can do no wrong, but I think that classifying this as a "meltdown" is a bit dramatic.

I mean, it wasn't an ideal show, and I surely would have left feeling a bit bummed out and shortchanged, but a "meltdown"? Jeez.

I just hope that there's no tension with the band over stuff like this, I love the line up of the Cardinals, I'd love to see them stick together for awhile yet. I also hope that Ryan doesn't let the negative press get to him...that he will just dust himself off, straighten up, and carry on.

joyfulgirl · 09-28-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by BonoIsMyMuse
I'd really hoped that he'd stop stunts like this when he gave up drinking.

If there are continued reports of this kind of erratic behavior, I'd guess he's using again.

Anu · 09-28-2007, 04:18 PM

Chan M. of Catpower is also notorious in this respect for being on or off. I've seen her twice; one was one of the best shows ever, another was one of the worst.

I can't decide if I should try to cover his sold-out Nashville show or not.

AngelofHarlem01 · 09-28-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Bonochick
"I don't know what the story was," guitarist Neal Casal told the Star Tribune afterward. "I just play guitar."

I love that quote, such a musician thing to say.

onebloodonelife · 09-28-2007, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bonochick
Not that I'm gonna defend Ryan like he can do no wrong, but I think that classifying this as a "meltdown" is a bit dramatic. I mean, it wasn't an ideal show, and I surely would have left feeling a bit bummed out and shortchanged, but a "meltdown"? Jeez.

And, honestly, it wasn't a "meltdown" by any means. He didn't yell at the audience, or kick monitors. The show was great, until he decided to just walk off and not come back for an encore. The worst part for me is that I'll have to think twice before paying to see him next time he comes through.

zoney! · 09-28-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Bonochick
...and lambasted local rock legend Paul Westerberg.

I read this this morning (and after the show where he did this). Not a cool move. But I think this was when he had some "other" issues.

elevation2u · 09-29-2007, 09:31 PM

meltdown?
ha, i'm glad that's cnn newsworthy

**Bonochick** · 10-02-2007, 09:47 AM

It sounds like the shows since then have been amazing!!!

Bad news though...the Tulsa show is cancelled.

http://www.ryan-adams.com/web/guest/newsinfo

Quote:

10.02.2007
Tulsa Show Cancelled

Ryan Adams & The Cardinals had an opportunity that we could not pass up, and that we will hopefully be able to unveil to you all very soon. This regretfully resulted in having to cancel the October 21st show in Tulsa, OK. We promise to make it up to you soon. Watch this website for details on reimbursement for tickets already purchased for this show.

When asked about the cancellation, guitarist Neal Casal shrugged and said, "I just play guitar man."

elevated_u2_fan · 10-02-2007, 10:24 AM

that Neal Casal guy seems to have a standard reply for everything

zoney! · 10-04-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by Bonochick
Oh, and here is the poster from Ann Arbor.

The friend I gave my Minneapolis tickets sent me a copy of the Minneapolis poster. VERY cool! It's a guy ice fishing.

I'll have to pick up one of the indy ones now!

I'll post a picture some day.

LemonMelon · 10-04-2007, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bonochick
And on CNN's front page...and currently the most viewed story..."Ryan Adams has meltdown at concert".

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Musi....ap/index.html

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (AP) -- Ryan Adams pitched another fit for a Minneapolis audience, a few years after his last local meltdown.

Throughout a show Thursday night, the 32-year-old singer-guitarist complained about the sound monitors onstage at the State Theatre. At one point, he moved two monitors, his microphone and his guitar pedals.

After 70 minutes he'd had enough. Adams announced "the last song," played it and didn't return for an encore. Many fans stood and booed.

"I don't know what the story was," guitarist Neal Casal told the Star Tribune afterward. "I just play guitar."

In 2003, Adams gave a famously bad performance at First Avenue, a rambling two-hour show where he griped about the sound system, played several songs twice and lambasted local rock legend Paul Westerberg.

.................That's it? He left early? THIS is what people consider a meltdown these days?

elevation2u · 10-05-2007, 01:33 AM

nice avatar

09-28-2007, 11:14 AM	#361
Bonochick Halloweenhead Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cherry Lane Posts: 39,889 Local Time: 01:47 AM	Yeah, I was just reading about the show at the Archive. 65 minutes? Yikes. I mean, I know some people were crabby at the 90 minutes, and I was fine with those shows...but 65 would leave me kind of disappointed. It sounds like there were sound issues, but it still sucks. I guess at least take some joy in getting "Shakedown" though, that is awesome. __________________ "Will he jump out of the internet and punch her face?" Bonochick [at] interference.com

09-28-2007, 02:21 PM	#362
Bonochick Halloweenhead Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cherry Lane Posts: 39,889 Local Time: 01:47 AM	And on CNN's front page...and currently the most viewed story..."Ryan Adams has meltdown at concert". http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Musi....ap/index.html MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (AP) -- Ryan Adams pitched another fit for a Minneapolis audience, a few years after his last local meltdown. Throughout a show Thursday night, the 32-year-old singer-guitarist complained about the sound monitors onstage at the State Theatre. At one point, he moved two monitors, his microphone and his guitar pedals. After 70 minutes he'd had enough. Adams announced "the last song," played it and didn't return for an encore. Many fans stood and booed. "I don't know what the story was," guitarist Neal Casal told the Star Tribune afterward. "I just play guitar." In 2003, Adams gave a famously bad performance at First Avenue, a rambling two-hour show where he griped about the sound system, played several songs twice and lambasted local rock legend Paul Westerberg. __________________ "Will he jump out of the internet and punch her face?" Bonochick [at] interference.com Last edited by Bonochick; 09-28-2007 at 02:23 PM..

09-28-2007, 02:33 PM	#363
BonoIsMyMuse In A Sea Black With Ink Premium Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 4,583 Local Time: 01:47 AM Images: 14	I'd really hoped that he'd stop stunts like this when he gave up drinking. This is a lot of the reason why I've stopped being a big fan. It seems like when you go to see him, you either get an amazing performance or one where he throws a tantrum and doesn't play the whole set. You have to wonder how many people left that show last night vowing to never see him again. I surely would have. He played long enough that the venue can't issue refunds, but not really long enough for people to have gotten their money's worth. It reminds me of the night back in 2005 when I walked out of one of his shows because he was arguing with the crowd more than he was playing. As it turns out, the crowd booed him off the stage not long after I left. Just when he was starting to possibly win me back, this happens. It's disappointing, because he's a terrific performer, but he's going to keep losing fans if he doesn't knock this crap off. That moody artist persona was charming for awhile, but it's gotten old. __________________ And I must be an acrobat To talk like this and act like that. And you can dream, so dream out loud And don't let the bastards grind you down.

09-28-2007, 03:12 PM	#364
Bonochick Halloweenhead Forum Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cherry Lane Posts: 39,889 Local Time: 01:47 AM	Not that I'm gonna defend Ryan like he can do no wrong, but I think that classifying this as a "meltdown" is a bit dramatic. I mean, it wasn't an ideal show, and I surely would have left feeling a bit bummed out and shortchanged, but a "meltdown"? Jeez. I just hope that there's no tension with the band over stuff like this, I love the line up of the Cardinals, I'd love to see them stick together for awhile yet. I also hope that Ryan doesn't let the negative press get to him...that he will just dust himself off, straighten up, and carry on. __________________ "Will he jump out of the internet and punch her face?" Bonochick [at] interference.com

09-28-2007, 04:18 PM	#366
Anu Editor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: There ain't no place I'd rather be, baby won't you carry me back to Tennessee Posts: 1,257 Local Time: 06:47 AM Images: 50	Chan M. of Catpower is also notorious in this respect for being on or off. I've seen her twice; one was one of the best shows ever, another was one of the worst. I can't decide if I should try to cover his sold-out Nashville show or not. __________________ The reds and the whites and abused/The crucified USA, I said the prophecy unfolds/All hell is surely on its way

09-29-2007, 09:31 PM	#370
elevation2u Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: May 2002 Location: corner of Badlands & Magnolia Mountain Posts: 5,382 Local Time: 10:47 PM	meltdown? ha, i'm glad that's cnn newsworthy

10-05-2007, 01:33 AM	#375
elevation2u Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: May 2002 Location: corner of Badlands & Magnolia Mountain Posts: 5,382 Local Time: 10:47 PM	nice avatar

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