U2 360 Boxscore Discussion - Page 40

beau99 · 10-31-2009, 01:33 PM

Back to discussion of U2 360 boxscores...

nothing is obviously official yet, but the local news channels here in Phoenix reported around 66,000 for the AZ show.

I have to believe it myself; 3 sections were completely tarped off, and another had very few people in it. Since the stadium officially holds 72,000, I'm going with that number as a guess.

Maoilbheannacht · 10-31-2009, 01:35 PM

Top Attendance at a U.S. concert by a single headliner:

1. U2 - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (Oct. 25, 2009)
Attendance: 97,014
Gross: $9,960,036

2. The Who - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25, 1982)
Attendance: 91,451
Gross: $1,440,353

4., 5. Rolling Stones - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25-26, 1981)
Attendance: 181,564 (average 90,782 per show)
Gross: $2,859,633

6. , 7. , 8. , 9. Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 18-19; 21-22, 1989)
Attendance: - 360,068 (average 90,017 per show)

10. Rolling Stones - Superdome; New Orleans, LA. (December 5, 1981)
Attendance: 87,500
Gross: $1,531,250

11. U2 - John F. Kennedy Stadium, Philadelphia (Sept. 25, 1987)
Attendance: 86,145
Gross: $1,593,683

12. U2 - FedExField; Landover, Md. (Sept. 29, 2009)
Attendance: 84,754
Gross: $6,718,315

13. Journey - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (July 2, 1982)
Attendance: 83,214
Gross: $1,373,031

14. The Who - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 29, 1982)
Attendance: 83,000
Gross: $1,365,415

15., 16. U2 - Giants Stadium; East Rutherford, NJ. (September 23-24, 2009)
Attendance: 161,810 (average 80,905 per show)
Gross: $16,128,950

17. Pink Floyd - JFK Stadium: Philadelphia, PA (September 19, 1987)
Attendance: 80,754

18. The Who - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 26, 1982)
Attendance: 80,000
Gross: $1,200,000

19., 20. Rolling Stones - Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (November 1, 3, 1981)
Attendance: 156,000 (average 78,000 per show)
Gross: $2,695,332

21., 22. Rolling Stones - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (November 30, December 1, 1981)
Attendance: 152,696 (average 76,348 per show)
Gross: $2,290,490

23. Pink Floyd - Ohio State University Stadium; Columbus, Ohio (May 29, 1994)
Attendance: 75,250
Gross: $2,406,920

24. The Who - Silverdome; Pontiac, Mich. (September 30, 1982)
Attendance: 75,000
Gross: $1,119,000

25. Rolling Stones - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 27, 1981)
Attendance: 75,000
Gross: $1,125,000

26. Rolling Stones - Sun Devil Stadium: Tempe, Arizona (December 13, 1981)
Attendance: 74,637
Gross: $1,287,488

27. Foreigner - Anaheim Stadium; Anaheim, Calif. (July 17, 1982)
Attendance: 73,351
Gross: $1,100,255

28. Backstreet Boys - Georgia Dome, Atlanta (Feb. 19, 2000)
Attendance: 73,337
Gross: $2,787,098

ijwthstd · 10-31-2009, 01:58 PM

Bruce Springsteen also did 4 nights at the LA Memorial Coliseum in 1985.

The Foreigner show was a festival called Summer Stomp that also included Loverboy, Scorpions and Iron Maiden. The Journey show was also a festival with Blue Oyster Cult and possibly other arena level headliners on the bill.

Led Zeppelin drew upwards of 75,000 to the Silverdome.

Maoilbheannacht · 10-31-2009, 02:38 PM

Top Attendance at a U.S. concert by a single headliner:

1. U2 - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (Oct. 25, 2009)
Attendance: 97,014
Gross: $9,960,036

2. The Who - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25, 1982)
Attendance: 91,451
Gross: $1,440,353

4., 5. Rolling Stones - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25-26, 1981)
Attendance: 181,564 (average 90,782 per show)
Gross: $2,859,633

6. , 7. , 8. , 9. Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 18-19; 21-22, 1989)
Attendance: - 360,068 (average 90,017 per show)

10. Rolling Stones - Superdome; New Orleans, LA. (December 5, 1981)
Attendance: 87,500
Gross: $1,531,250

11. U2 - John F. Kennedy Stadium, Philadelphia (Sept. 25, 1987)
Attendance: 86,145
Gross: $1,593,683

12. U2 - FedExField; Landover, Md. (Sept. 29, 2009)
Attendance: 84,754
Gross: $6,718,315

13. Journey - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (July 2, 1982)
Attendance: 83,214
Gross: $1,373,031

14. The Who - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 29, 1982)
Attendance: 83,000
Gross: $1,365,415

15., 16., 17., 18. Bruce Springsteen - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, Calif. (Sept 27-30 & Oct 2, 1985)
Attendance: 331,892 (average 82,973 per show)
Gross: $5,688,445

19., 20. U2 - Giants Stadium; East Rutherford, NJ. (September 23-24, 2009)
Attendance: 161,810 (average 80,905 per show)
Gross: $16,128,950

21. Pink Floyd - JFK Stadium: Philadelphia, PA (September 19, 1987)
Attendance: 80,754

22. The Who - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 26, 1982)
Attendance: 80,000
Gross: $1,200,000

23., 24. Rolling Stones - Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (November 1, 3, 1981)
Attendance: 156,000 (average 78,000 per show)
Gross: $2,695,332

25. Aerosmith - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (May 8, 1976)
Attendance: 76,900
Gross: $645,824

26., 27. Rolling Stones - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (November 30, December 1, 1981)
Attendance: 152,696 (average 76,348 per show)
Gross: $2,290,490

28. Led Zeppelin - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (April 30, 1977)
Attendance: 76,229

29. Pink Floyd - Ohio State University Stadium; Columbus, Ohio (May 29, 1994)
Attendance: 75,250
Gross: $2,406,920

30. The Who - Silverdome; Pontiac, Mich. (September 30, 1982)
Attendance: 75,000
Gross: $1,119,000

31. Rolling Stones - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 27, 1981)
Attendance: 75,000
Gross: $1,125,000

32. Rolling Stones - Sun Devil Stadium: Tempe, Arizona (December 13, 1981)
Attendance: 74,637
Gross: $1,287,488

33. Foreigner - Anaheim Stadium; Anaheim, Calif. (July 17, 1982)
Attendance: 73,351
Gross: $1,100,255

34. Backstreet Boys - Georgia Dome, Atlanta (Feb. 19, 2000)
Attendance: 73,337
Gross: $2,787,098

35., 36. Bruce Springsteen - Orange Bowl; Miami, Florida (September 9-10, 1985)
Attendance: 146,458 (average 73,229 per show)
Gross: $2,563,015

So, although the Backstreet Boys performance at the Georgia Dome was listed in the top 5 for attendance in the article, its actually not even in the top 30 once you include shows prior to January 1991.

Note: There are two Rolling Stones shows at LA Memorial Coliseum in Los Angeles, a Police show at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, a Police show at Hollywood Park in California that could potentially make this list of shows, which consist of shows with 73,000+ attendance per show. But no official boxscore was posted in Billboard for those shows.

Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, Calif (October 9-10, 1981)
Attendance: ?
Gross: ?

The Police - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (August 20, 1983)
Attendance: ?
Gross: ?

The Police - Hollywood Park; Hollywood, Calif (September 5, 1983)
Attendance: ?
Gross: ?

Festivals and shows that appear to be festivals:

"SPIRIT OF SUMMER 76" #1
Line up: Yes / Peter Frampton / Gary Wright / Pousette Dart Band
JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (June 12, 1976
Attendance: 105,000
Gross: $1,050,000

Allman Brothers / Marshall Tucker / Outlaws / Molly Hatchet / .38 Special
JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (June 20, 1981)
Attendance: 90,000
Gross: $1,350,000

LIVE AID - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (July 13, 1985)
Attendance: 89,484
Gross: $3,552,800

TEXAS WORLD MUSIC FESTIVAL
Deep Purple / Night Ranger / Scorpions / Ted Nugent / Bon Jovi / Grim Reaper / Victory
Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (August 24, 1985)
Attendance: 80,000
Gross: $1,467,864

FARMAID - Memorial Stadium; University Of Illinois Champaign, Illinois (September 22, 1985)
Attendance: 79,000
Gross: $1,450,500

Rob33 · 10-31-2009, 03:10 PM

what about Rod Stewart? Didn't he play a show at Rio de Janeiro in 1994 that smashed records?

genesis199125 · 10-31-2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob33

what about Rod Stewart? Didn't he play a show at Rio de Janeiro in 1994 that smashed records?

That was a free show on New Year's Eve..and well that was in South America, but only records in North America are being discussed.

Maoilbheannacht · 10-31-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob33

what about Rod Stewart? Didn't he play a show at Rio de Janeiro in 1994 that smashed records?

This record attendance list only involves concerts in the United States that are non-festival, and ticketed. No free shows.

VintagePunk · 10-31-2009, 04:59 PM

I have a question that originated out of a discussion in another thread, and I thought maybe one of you boxscore gurus could enlighten me.

When a show doesn't sell out and there are many, many visible empty seats during the show, and yet the show is reported as sold out in later box scores, how do they "adjust" the numbers to reflect a sell out when it really wasn't? I'm sure I've read that there are ways of doing this, but I can't remember how. Thanks for any answers you can provide.

Maoilbheannacht · 10-31-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VintagePunk

I have a question that originated out of a discussion in another thread, and I thought maybe one of you boxscore gurus could enlighten me.

When a show doesn't sell out and there are many, many visible empty seats during the show, and yet the show is reported as sold out in later box scores, how do they "adjust" the numbers to reflect a sell out when it really wasn't? I'm sure I've read that there are ways of doing this, but I can't remember how. Thanks for any answers you can provide.

The primary reason you see empty seats at a show that was marked as a sellout is because the seats were not released for purchase. Of course, those tickets could have been released at any time in order to accomodate a sudden increase in demand before the show, but provided that they are not released for purchase before the boxoffice closes, they do not have any impact on whether the show is marked a sellout.

Another reason for groups of empty seats is the failure of scalpers to re-sell their tickets.

When the # of tickets sold, matches the number of tickets released for purchase, the show is marked a sellout, even if the figure is less than the maximum physical capacity of the venue.

Maoilbheannacht · 10-31-2009, 05:16 PM

The Highest Attended Concerts In United States History:

1. U2 - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (Oct. 25, 2009)
Attendance: 97,014
Gross: $9,960,036

2. The Who - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25, 1982)
Attendance: 91,451
Gross: $1,440,353

3., 4. Rolling Stones - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25-26, 1981)
Attendance: 181,564 (average 90,782 per show)
Gross: $2,859,633

5. , 6. , 7. , 8. Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 18-19; 21-22, 1989)
Attendance: - 360,068 (average 90,017 per show)

9. Rolling Stones - Superdome; New Orleans, LA. (December 5, 1981)
Attendance: 87,500
Gross: $1,531,250

10. U2 - John F. Kennedy Stadium, Philadelphia (Sept. 25, 1987)
Attendance: 86,145
Gross: $1,593,683

11. U2 - FedExField; Landover, Md. (Sept. 29, 2009)
Attendance: 84,754
Gross: $6,718,315

12. Journey - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (July 2, 1982)
Attendance: 83,214
Gross: $1,373,031

13. The Who - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 29, 1982)
Attendance: 83,000
Gross: $1,365,415

14., 15., 16., 17. Bruce Springsteen - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, Calif. (Sept 27-30 & Oct 2, 1985)
Attendance: 331,892 (average 82,973 per show)
Gross: $5,688,445

18., 19. U2 - Giants Stadium; East Rutherford, NJ. (September 23-24, 2009)
Attendance: 161,810 (average 80,905 per show)
Gross: $16,128,950

20. Pink Floyd - JFK Stadium: Philadelphia, PA (September 19, 1987)
Attendance: 80,754

21. The Who - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 26, 1982)
Attendance: 80,000
Gross: $1,200,000

22., 23. Rolling Stones - Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (November 1, 3, 1981)
Attendance: 156,000 (average 78,000 per show)
Gross: $2,695,332

24. Aerosmith - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (May 8, 1976)
Attendance: 76,900
Gross: $645,824

25., 26. Rolling Stones - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (November 30, December 1, 1981)
Attendance: 152,696 (average 76,348 per show)
Gross: $2,290,490

27. Led Zeppelin - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (April 30, 1977)
Attendance: 76,229

28. Pink Floyd - Ohio State University Stadium; Columbus, Ohio (May 29, 1994)
Attendance: 75,250
Gross: $2,406,920

29. The Who - Silverdome; Pontiac, Mich. (September 30, 1982)
Attendance: 75,000
Gross: $1,119,000

30. Rolling Stones - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 27, 1981)
Attendance: 75,000
Gross: $1,125,000

31. Rolling Stones - Sun Devil Stadium: Tempe, Arizona (December 13, 1981)
Attendance: 74,637
Gross: $1,287,488

32. Foreigner - Anaheim Stadium; Anaheim, Calif. (July 17, 1982)
Attendance: 73,351
Gross: $1,100,255

33. Backstreet Boys - Georgia Dome, Atlanta (Feb. 19, 2000)
Attendance: 73,337
Gross: $2,787,098

34., 35. Bruce Springsteen - Orange Bowl; Miami, Florida (September 9-10, 1985)
Attendance: 146,458 (average 73,229 per show)
Gross: $2,563,015

So, although the Backstreet Boys performance at the Georgia Dome was listed in the top 5 for attendance in the article, its actually not even in the top 30 once you include shows prior to January 1991.

Note: There are two Rolling Stones shows at LA Memorial Coliseum in Los Angeles, a Police show at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, a Police show at Hollywood Park in California that could potentially make this list of shows, which consist of shows with 73,000+ attendance per show. But no official boxscore was posted in Billboard for those shows.

Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, Calif (October 9-10, 1981)
Attendance: ?
Gross: ?

The Police - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (August 20, 1983)
Attendance: ?
Gross: ?

The Police - Hollywood Park; Hollywood, Calif (September 5, 1983)
Attendance: ?
Gross: ?

Festivals and shows that appear to be festivals:

"SPIRIT OF SUMMER 76" #1
Line up: Yes / Peter Frampton / Gary Wright / Pousette Dart Band
JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (June 12, 1976
Attendance: 105,000
Gross: $1,050,000

Allman Brothers / Marshall Tucker / Outlaws / Molly Hatchet / .38 Special
JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (June 20, 1981)
Attendance: 90,000
Gross: $1,350,000

LIVE AID - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (July 13, 1985)
Attendance: 89,484
Gross: $3,552,800

TEXAS WORLD MUSIC FESTIVAL
Deep Purple / Night Ranger / Scorpions / Ted Nugent / Bon Jovi / Grim Reaper / Victory
Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (August 24, 1985)
Attendance: 80,000
Gross: $1,467,864

FARMAID - Memorial Stadium; University Of Illinois Champaign, Illinois (September 22, 1985)
Attendance: 79,000
Gross: $1,450,500

ijwthstd · 10-31-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VintagePunk

I have a question that originated out of a discussion in another thread, and I thought maybe one of you boxscore gurus could enlighten me.

When a show doesn't sell out and there are many, many visible empty seats during the show, and yet the show is reported as sold out in later box scores, how do they "adjust" the numbers to reflect a sell out when it really wasn't? I'm sure I've read that there are ways of doing this, but I can't remember how. Thanks for any answers you can provide.

Usually attendance and gross are accurate. EVen though there is always a point where not another person can be squeezed in and not another seat can be sold, capacity, percentage etc are often just made up numbers and reported so after the fact. Either the seats were never purchased or purchased and never used. Ask yourself if it makes sense to sell out a show while leaving many seats empty (we are talking in general areas, not production kills).

badu2fan · 11-01-2009, 04:22 AM

Grateful Dead - Dick's Picks 15 - Englishtown 1977 (Album Review)

Other large concerts not held at racecourses have included Rod Stewart at Copacabana Beach in Rio (3. 5 million, 1994); Garth Brooks in Central Park in New York City (750,000 people, 1997); the US Festival in Devore, CA (670,000 people, 1983); the Isle of Wight Festival in the UK (500,000+ people in 1970); and Simon & Garfunkle, again in Central Park (nearly 500,000 people in 1981).

interview with buddy cage about being in NRPS

Joining the New Riders
After you took over the reins of the pedal steel for Jerry, how were you received in that role, especially when you opened up for the Grateful Dead?
(BC) I had never before met such a group of generous people like the GD, including ALL their crew & staff AND Bill Graham!!!!!!!!!! Generous musically, spiritually. Kindness you just don't see every day.
The New Riders were one of the bands performing at Raceway Park in Englishtown, NJ back on Sept. 3, 1977, as an opening act for the Grateful Dead. I understand there was over 100,000 in attendance. What is it like playing for such a large crowd? (The GD released their performance of that show on Dick's Picks Vol. 15)
(BC) Very moving, very intense.
Marshall Tucker was on the bill too. I always thought The New Riders and Marshall Tucker Band shared many similar traits, namely incorporating blues, county, and rock into their sound and importantly, some flat out great picking in both bands. Do you like them much? (BC) Loved 'em! Toy was a pal...
R.I.P.

Lots of young folks don't even know about the big shows in the music industry before all this keeping track records etc.... I went to 4 shows with over 100,000 back in the 70's
I am sure u2 could draw this many as well. Especially if they got rid of the $250 tickets.

beau99 · 11-01-2009, 11:26 AM

^ That's well and good, but those shows you mentioned were either free or a festival event.

We're not talking about those.

Maoilbheannacht · 11-01-2009, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badu2fan

Grateful Dead - Dick's Picks 15 - Englishtown 1977 (Album Review)

Other large concerts not held at racecourses have included Rod Stewart at Copacabana Beach in Rio (3. 5 million, 1994); Garth Brooks in Central Park in New York City (750,000 people, 1997); the US Festival in Devore, CA (670,000 people, 1983); the Isle of Wight Festival in the UK (500,000+ people in 1970); and Simon & Garfunkle, again in Central Park (nearly 500,000 people in 1981).

interview with buddy cage about being in NRPS

Joining the New Riders
After you took over the reins of the pedal steel for Jerry, how were you received in that role, especially when you opened up for the Grateful Dead?
(BC) I had never before met such a group of generous people like the GD, including ALL their crew & staff AND Bill Graham!!!!!!!!!! Generous musically, spiritually. Kindness you just don't see every day.
The New Riders were one of the bands performing at Raceway Park in Englishtown, NJ back on Sept. 3, 1977, as an opening act for the Grateful Dead. I understand there was over 100,000 in attendance. What is it like playing for such a large crowd? (The GD released their performance of that show on Dick's Picks Vol. 15)
(BC) Very moving, very intense.
Marshall Tucker was on the bill too. I always thought The New Riders and Marshall Tucker Band shared many similar traits, namely incorporating blues, county, and rock into their sound and importantly, some flat out great picking in both bands. Do you like them much? (BC) Loved 'em! Toy was a pal...
R.I.P.

Lots of young folks don't even know about the big shows in the music industry before all this keeping track records etc.... I went to 4 shows with over 100,000 back in the 70's
I am sure u2 could draw this many as well. Especially if they got rid of the $250 tickets.

Hey, I like that sparing use of blue font. Looks good.

Rod Stewart at Copacabana Beach in Rio (3. 5 million, 1994) FREE SHOW
Garth Brooks in Central Park in New York City (750,000 people, 1997); FREE SHOW

the US Festival in Devore, CA (670,000 people, 1983) Several dozen artist over 4 days. The attendance figure is a combined one. The day Van Halen headlined allegedly had 300,000 people.

the Isle of Wight Festival in the UK (500,000+ people in 1970); FREE SHOW

and Simon & Garfunkle, again in Central Park (nearly 500,000 people in 1981) FREE SHOW

Quote:

Lots of young folks don't even know about the big shows in the music industry before all this keeping track records etc.... I went to 4 shows with over 100,000 back in the 70's

How do you know there were 100,000 people there? Did you have to buy a ticket or was the show free? Without actual boxoffice results there is no way to confirm any of this. Sure, multi-band festivals, especially ones that are free, can generate some large crowd figures.

But its far more interesting to see which artist on their own are able to attract such large numbers of people to a show that requires the purchase of a ticket to attend.

Was the Grateful Dead show free or did it require the purchase of a ticket? Again, without boxoffice results, it will be impossible to confirm how many people attended the show.

VintagePunk · 11-01-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maoilbheannacht

The primary reason you see empty seats at a show that was marked as a sellout is because the seats were not released for purchase. Of course, those tickets could have been released at any time in order to accomodate a sudden increase in demand before the show, but provided that they are not released for purchase before the boxoffice closes, they do not have any impact on whether the show is marked a sellout.

Another reason for groups of empty seats is the failure of scalpers to re-sell their tickets.

When the # of tickets sold, matches the number of tickets released for purchase, the show is marked a sellout, even if the figure is less than the maximum physical capacity of the venue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ijwthstd

Usually attendance and gross are accurate. EVen though there is always a point where not another person can be squeezed in and not another seat can be sold, capacity, percentage etc are often just made up numbers and reported so after the fact. Either the seats were never purchased or purchased and never used. Ask yourself if it makes sense to sell out a show while leaving many seats empty (we are talking in general areas, not production kills).

Thanks for the responses.

Yes, the method I was thinking of is where they don't release seats initially, and only release them later if there's demand, so they're not counted in the final tally if they aren't released.

In the case I'm thinking of, and based on the information you two gave me, I'm more inclined to think that the vast number of empty seats were purchases made by scalpers that they failed to resell.

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beau99 The Fly Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 265 Local Time: 06:23 PM	Back to discussion of U2 360 boxscores... nothing is obviously official yet, but the local news channels here in Phoenix reported around 66,000 for the AZ show. I have to believe it myself; 3 sections were completely tarped off, and another had very few people in it. Since the stadium officially holds 72,000, I'm going with that number as a guess.

10-31-2009, 01:35 PM	#587
Maoilbheannacht Refugee Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,751 Local Time: 01:23 AM	Top Attendance at a U.S. concert by a single headliner: 1. U2 - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (Oct. 25, 2009) Attendance: 97,014 Gross: $9,960,036 2. The Who - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25, 1982) Attendance: 91,451 Gross: $1,440,353 4., 5. Rolling Stones - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25-26, 1981) Attendance: 181,564 (average 90,782 per show) Gross: $2,859,633 6. , 7. , 8. , 9. Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 18-19; 21-22, 1989) Attendance: - 360,068 (average 90,017 per show) 10. Rolling Stones - Superdome; New Orleans, LA. (December 5, 1981) Attendance: 87,500 Gross: $1,531,250 11. U2 - John F. Kennedy Stadium, Philadelphia (Sept. 25, 1987) Attendance: 86,145 Gross: $1,593,683 12. U2 - FedExField; Landover, Md. (Sept. 29, 2009) Attendance: 84,754 Gross: $6,718,315 13. Journey - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (July 2, 1982) Attendance: 83,214 Gross: $1,373,031 14. The Who - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 29, 1982) Attendance: 83,000 Gross: $1,365,415 15., 16. U2 - Giants Stadium; East Rutherford, NJ. (September 23-24, 2009) Attendance: 161,810 (average 80,905 per show) Gross: $16,128,950 17. Pink Floyd - JFK Stadium: Philadelphia, PA (September 19, 1987) Attendance: 80,754 18. The Who - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 26, 1982) Attendance: 80,000 Gross: $1,200,000 19., 20. Rolling Stones - Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (November 1, 3, 1981) Attendance: 156,000 (average 78,000 per show) Gross: $2,695,332 21., 22. Rolling Stones - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (November 30, December 1, 1981) Attendance: 152,696 (average 76,348 per show) Gross: $2,290,490 23. Pink Floyd - Ohio State University Stadium; Columbus, Ohio (May 29, 1994) Attendance: 75,250 Gross: $2,406,920 24. The Who - Silverdome; Pontiac, Mich. (September 30, 1982) Attendance: 75,000 Gross: $1,119,000 25. Rolling Stones - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 27, 1981) Attendance: 75,000 Gross: $1,125,000 26. Rolling Stones - Sun Devil Stadium: Tempe, Arizona (December 13, 1981) Attendance: 74,637 Gross: $1,287,488 27. Foreigner - Anaheim Stadium; Anaheim, Calif. (July 17, 1982) Attendance: 73,351 Gross: $1,100,255 28. Backstreet Boys - Georgia Dome, Atlanta (Feb. 19, 2000) Attendance: 73,337 Gross: $2,787,098

10-31-2009, 01:58 PM	#588
ijwthstd The Fly Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Burbank, CA, USA Posts: 46 Local Time: 08:23 PM	Bruce Springsteen also did 4 nights at the LA Memorial Coliseum in 1985. The Foreigner show was a festival called Summer Stomp that also included Loverboy, Scorpions and Iron Maiden. The Journey show was also a festival with Blue Oyster Cult and possibly other arena level headliners on the bill. Led Zeppelin drew upwards of 75,000 to the Silverdome.

10-31-2009, 02:38 PM	#589
Maoilbheannacht Refugee Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,751 Local Time: 01:23 AM	Top Attendance at a U.S. concert by a single headliner: 1. U2 - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (Oct. 25, 2009) Attendance: 97,014 Gross: $9,960,036 2. The Who - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25, 1982) Attendance: 91,451 Gross: $1,440,353 4., 5. Rolling Stones - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25-26, 1981) Attendance: 181,564 (average 90,782 per show) Gross: $2,859,633 6. , 7. , 8. , 9. Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 18-19; 21-22, 1989) Attendance: - 360,068 (average 90,017 per show) 10. Rolling Stones - Superdome; New Orleans, LA. (December 5, 1981) Attendance: 87,500 Gross: $1,531,250 11. U2 - John F. Kennedy Stadium, Philadelphia (Sept. 25, 1987) Attendance: 86,145 Gross: $1,593,683 12. U2 - FedExField; Landover, Md. (Sept. 29, 2009) Attendance: 84,754 Gross: $6,718,315 13. Journey - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (July 2, 1982) Attendance: 83,214 Gross: $1,373,031 14. The Who - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 29, 1982) Attendance: 83,000 Gross: $1,365,415 15., 16., 17., 18. Bruce Springsteen - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, Calif. (Sept 27-30 & Oct 2, 1985) Attendance: 331,892 (average 82,973 per show) Gross: $5,688,445 19., 20. U2 - Giants Stadium; East Rutherford, NJ. (September 23-24, 2009) Attendance: 161,810 (average 80,905 per show) Gross: $16,128,950 21. Pink Floyd - JFK Stadium: Philadelphia, PA (September 19, 1987) Attendance: 80,754 22. The Who - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 26, 1982) Attendance: 80,000 Gross: $1,200,000 23., 24. Rolling Stones - Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (November 1, 3, 1981) Attendance: 156,000 (average 78,000 per show) Gross: $2,695,332 25. Aerosmith - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (May 8, 1976) Attendance: 76,900 Gross: $645,824 26., 27. Rolling Stones - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (November 30, December 1, 1981) Attendance: 152,696 (average 76,348 per show) Gross: $2,290,490 28. Led Zeppelin - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (April 30, 1977) Attendance: 76,229 29. Pink Floyd - Ohio State University Stadium; Columbus, Ohio (May 29, 1994) Attendance: 75,250 Gross: $2,406,920 30. The Who - Silverdome; Pontiac, Mich. (September 30, 1982) Attendance: 75,000 Gross: $1,119,000 31. Rolling Stones - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 27, 1981) Attendance: 75,000 Gross: $1,125,000 32. Rolling Stones - Sun Devil Stadium: Tempe, Arizona (December 13, 1981) Attendance: 74,637 Gross: $1,287,488 33. Foreigner - Anaheim Stadium; Anaheim, Calif. (July 17, 1982) Attendance: 73,351 Gross: $1,100,255 34. Backstreet Boys - Georgia Dome, Atlanta (Feb. 19, 2000) Attendance: 73,337 Gross: $2,787,098 35., 36. Bruce Springsteen - Orange Bowl; Miami, Florida (September 9-10, 1985) Attendance: 146,458 (average 73,229 per show) Gross: $2,563,015 So, although the Backstreet Boys performance at the Georgia Dome was listed in the top 5 for attendance in the article, its actually not even in the top 30 once you include shows prior to January 1991. Note: There are two Rolling Stones shows at LA Memorial Coliseum in Los Angeles, a Police show at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, a Police show at Hollywood Park in California that could potentially make this list of shows, which consist of shows with 73,000+ attendance per show. But no official boxscore was posted in Billboard for those shows. Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, Calif (October 9-10, 1981) Attendance: ? Gross: ? The Police - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (August 20, 1983) Attendance: ? Gross: ? The Police - Hollywood Park; Hollywood, Calif (September 5, 1983) Attendance: ? Gross: ? Festivals and shows that appear to be festivals: "SPIRIT OF SUMMER 76" #1 Line up: Yes / Peter Frampton / Gary Wright / Pousette Dart Band JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (June 12, 1976 Attendance: 105,000 Gross: $1,050,000 Allman Brothers / Marshall Tucker / Outlaws / Molly Hatchet / .38 Special JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (June 20, 1981) Attendance: 90,000 Gross: $1,350,000 LIVE AID - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (July 13, 1985) Attendance: 89,484 Gross: $3,552,800 TEXAS WORLD MUSIC FESTIVAL Deep Purple / Night Ranger / Scorpions / Ted Nugent / Bon Jovi / Grim Reaper / Victory Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (August 24, 1985) Attendance: 80,000 Gross: $1,467,864 FARMAID - Memorial Stadium; University Of Illinois Champaign, Illinois (September 22, 1985) Attendance: 79,000 Gross: $1,450,500

10-31-2009, 03:10 PM	#590
Rob33 New Yorker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,151 Local Time: 06:23 PM	what about Rod Stewart? Didn't he play a show at Rio de Janeiro in 1994 that smashed records?

10-31-2009, 05:16 PM	#595
Maoilbheannacht Refugee Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,751 Local Time: 01:23 AM	The Highest Attended Concerts In United States History: 1. U2 - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (Oct. 25, 2009) Attendance: 97,014 Gross: $9,960,036 2. The Who - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25, 1982) Attendance: 91,451 Gross: $1,440,353 3., 4. Rolling Stones - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA. (September 25-26, 1981) Attendance: 181,564 (average 90,782 per show) Gross: $2,859,633 5. , 6. , 7. , 8. Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 18-19; 21-22, 1989) Attendance: - 360,068 (average 90,017 per show) 9. Rolling Stones - Superdome; New Orleans, LA. (December 5, 1981) Attendance: 87,500 Gross: $1,531,250 10. U2 - John F. Kennedy Stadium, Philadelphia (Sept. 25, 1987) Attendance: 86,145 Gross: $1,593,683 11. U2 - FedExField; Landover, Md. (Sept. 29, 2009) Attendance: 84,754 Gross: $6,718,315 12. Journey - Rose Bowl; Pasadena, Calif. (July 2, 1982) Attendance: 83,214 Gross: $1,373,031 13. The Who - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, CA. (October 29, 1982) Attendance: 83,000 Gross: $1,365,415 14., 15., 16., 17. Bruce Springsteen - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, Calif. (Sept 27-30 & Oct 2, 1985) Attendance: 331,892 (average 82,973 per show) Gross: $5,688,445 18., 19. U2 - Giants Stadium; East Rutherford, NJ. (September 23-24, 2009) Attendance: 161,810 (average 80,905 per show) Gross: $16,128,950 20. Pink Floyd - JFK Stadium: Philadelphia, PA (September 19, 1987) Attendance: 80,754 21. The Who - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 26, 1982) Attendance: 80,000 Gross: $1,200,000 22., 23. Rolling Stones - Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (November 1, 3, 1981) Attendance: 156,000 (average 78,000 per show) Gross: $2,695,332 24. Aerosmith - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (May 8, 1976) Attendance: 76,900 Gross: $645,824 25., 26. Rolling Stones - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (November 30, December 1, 1981) Attendance: 152,696 (average 76,348 per show) Gross: $2,290,490 27. Led Zeppelin - Silverdome; Pontiac, Michigan (April 30, 1977) Attendance: 76,229 28. Pink Floyd - Ohio State University Stadium; Columbus, Ohio (May 29, 1994) Attendance: 75,250 Gross: $2,406,920 29. The Who - Silverdome; Pontiac, Mich. (September 30, 1982) Attendance: 75,000 Gross: $1,119,000 30. Rolling Stones - Rich Stadium; Buffalo, N.Y. (September 27, 1981) Attendance: 75,000 Gross: $1,125,000 31. Rolling Stones - Sun Devil Stadium: Tempe, Arizona (December 13, 1981) Attendance: 74,637 Gross: $1,287,488 32. Foreigner - Anaheim Stadium; Anaheim, Calif. (July 17, 1982) Attendance: 73,351 Gross: $1,100,255 33. Backstreet Boys - Georgia Dome, Atlanta (Feb. 19, 2000) Attendance: 73,337 Gross: $2,787,098 34., 35. Bruce Springsteen - Orange Bowl; Miami, Florida (September 9-10, 1985) Attendance: 146,458 (average 73,229 per show) Gross: $2,563,015 So, although the Backstreet Boys performance at the Georgia Dome was listed in the top 5 for attendance in the article, its actually not even in the top 30 once you include shows prior to January 1991. Note: There are two Rolling Stones shows at LA Memorial Coliseum in Los Angeles, a Police show at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, a Police show at Hollywood Park in California that could potentially make this list of shows, which consist of shows with 73,000+ attendance per show. But no official boxscore was posted in Billboard for those shows. Rolling Stones - LA Memorial Coliseum; Los Angeles, Calif (October 9-10, 1981) Attendance: ? Gross: ? The Police - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (August 20, 1983) Attendance: ? Gross: ? The Police - Hollywood Park; Hollywood, Calif (September 5, 1983) Attendance: ? Gross: ? Festivals and shows that appear to be festivals: "SPIRIT OF SUMMER 76" #1 Line up: Yes / Peter Frampton / Gary Wright / Pousette Dart Band JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (June 12, 1976 Attendance: 105,000 Gross: $1,050,000 Allman Brothers / Marshall Tucker / Outlaws / Molly Hatchet / .38 Special JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (June 20, 1981) Attendance: 90,000 Gross: $1,350,000 LIVE AID - JFK Stadium; Philadelphia, PA (July 13, 1985) Attendance: 89,484 Gross: $3,552,800 TEXAS WORLD MUSIC FESTIVAL Deep Purple / Night Ranger / Scorpions / Ted Nugent / Bon Jovi / Grim Reaper / Victory Cotton Bowl; Dallas, Texas (August 24, 1985) Attendance: 80,000 Gross: $1,467,864 FARMAID - Memorial Stadium; University Of Illinois Champaign, Illinois (September 22, 1985) Attendance: 79,000 Gross: $1,450,500

11-01-2009, 04:22 AM	#597
badu2fan The Fly Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 170 Local Time: 09:23 PM	Grateful Dead - Dick's Picks 15 - Englishtown 1977 (Album Review) Other large concerts not held at racecourses have included Rod Stewart at Copacabana Beach in Rio (3. 5 million, 1994); Garth Brooks in Central Park in New York City (750,000 people, 1997); the US Festival in Devore, CA (670,000 people, 1983); the Isle of Wight Festival in the UK (500,000+ people in 1970); and Simon & Garfunkle, again in Central Park (nearly 500,000 people in 1981). interview with buddy cage about being in NRPS *Joining the New Riders* After you took over the reins of the pedal steel for Jerry, how were you received in that role, especially when you opened up for the Grateful Dead? (BC) I had never before met such a group of generous people like the GD, including ALL their crew & staff AND Bill Graham!!!!!!!!!! Generous musically, spiritually. Kindness you just don't see every day. The New Riders were one of the bands performing at Raceway Park in Englishtown, NJ back on Sept. 3, 1977, as an opening act for the Grateful Dead. I understand there was over 100,000 in attendance. What is it like playing for such a large crowd? (The GD released their performance of that show on Dick's Picks Vol. 15) (BC) Very moving, very intense. Marshall Tucker was on the bill too. I always thought The New Riders and Marshall Tucker Band shared many similar traits, namely incorporating blues, county, and rock into their sound and importantly, some flat out great picking in both bands. Do you like them much? (BC) Loved 'em! Toy was a pal... R.I.P. Lots of young folks don't even know about the big shows in the music industry before all this keeping track records etc.... I went to 4 shows with over 100,000 back in the 70's I am sure u2 could draw this many as well. Especially if they got rid of the $250 tickets.

11-01-2009, 11:26 AM	#598
beau99 The Fly Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 265 Local Time: 06:23 PM	^ That's well and good, but those shows you mentioned were either free or a festival event. We're not talking about those.