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Old 08-05-2009, 04:48 PM   #1
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Box Office Data - U2 360 TOUR

1ST LEG EUROPE

June 30, July 2, 2009
Barcelona, Spain
Camp Nou
GROSS: $19,825,497 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 182,055 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $108.90

July 7-8, 2009
Milan, Italy
Stadio San Siro
GROSS: $15,168,799 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 153,806 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $98.62

July 11-12, 2009
Paris, France
Stade De France
GROSS: $20,902,760 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 186,544 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $112.05

July 15, 2009
Nice, France
Stade Charles Erhmann, Nice
GROSS: $6,261,208
ATTENDANCE: 55,641
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS :1
Average Ticket Price: $112.53

July 18, 2009
Berlin, Germany
Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $9,169,830
ATTENDANCE: 88,265
SHOWS :1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.89

July 20-21, 2009
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Amsterdam ArenA
GROSS: $12,583,998
ATTENDANCE: 125,866
SHOWS :2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $99.98

July 24-25-27, 2009
Dublin, Ireland
Croke Park
GROSS: $28,815,352
ATTENDANCE: 243,198
SHOWS :3
SELLOUTS: 3
Average Ticket Price: $118.49

July 31, Aug 1, 2009
Gothenburg, SE
Ullevi Stadium
GROSS: $11,047,995
ATTENDANCE: 119,297
SHOWS :2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $92.61

August 3, 2009
Gelsenkirchen, GE
Veltins Arena
GROSS: 7,292,826
ATTENDANCE: 73,704
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS:1
Average Ticket Price: $98.95

U2 360 TOUR: 1ST LEG EUROPE STATS

GROSS: $131,068,265
ATTENDANCE: 1,228,376
Average Gross: $8,191,766
Average Attendance: 76,774
Average Ticket Price: $106.70
Shows: 16
Sellouts: 16


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81,000 per Croke park show is less than i thought it was going to be.


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Old 08-05-2009, 05:40 PM   #3
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and 62,000 for amsterdam is less than i thought


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just realised Croke park was not full 360 hence the same attendence as the vertigo tour.

Amsterdam was 55,000 for Vertigo so 360 is offering 7,000 more tickets!


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So Croke Park didn't sell out in the end, not surprising, they kept putting extra tickets on sale right up to the show and didn't sell them


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So Croke Park didn't sell out in the end, not surprising, they kept putting extra tickets on sale right up to the show and didn't sell them
It didn't? According to the boxscores it did.


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It didn't? According to the boxscores it did.
I really don't buy a sell out figure, tickets were on sale right up until the show was on, they were being made fun of in the media for it. There's no way that show sold out in my opinion


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I really don't buy a sell out figure, tickets were on sale right up until the show was on, they were being made fun of in the media for it. There's no way that show sold out in my opinion

Its not a matter of opinion, its a fact that all tickets put on sale were sold. The capacity for the third show might have been slightly reduced from the previous two shows. But there were several weeks that went buy when it was not possible to purchase tickets for the third show, let alone the first two. Ticket drops can happen much later after the initial allotment of tickets have been sold. For example new tickets just became available in the lower level of Cowboys Stadium in Dallas which has not had tickets available in months.

Why would anyone in the media make fun of U2 for still having tickets available on the day of the show? Did people in the media make fun of U2 when there were still tickets available for the 2nd Croke Park show in 1987, back when the stadium's capacity was 60,000 instead of 80,000?


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So Croke Park didn't sell out in the end, not surprising, they kept putting extra tickets on sale right up to the show and didn't sell them

If any tickets put on sale were not sold, it would be listed in the boxscore.

For example, also in this weeks BOXSCORE results, are results for Bruce Springsteen in Bilbao, Spain

July 26, 2009
Bilbao, Spain
Estadio San Mames
GROSS: $3,409,189
ATTENDANCE: 36,318
CAPACITY: 36,935
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 0
Average Ticket Price: $93.87
Tickets not sold: 617


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If any tickets put on sale were not sold, it would be listed in the boxscore.

For example, also in this weeks BOXSCORE results, are results for Bruce Springsteen in Bilbao, Spain
Well then u2 magically sold out a venue in the last few seconds, if a band wanted to sell out a show they could buy the last few remaining tickets, selling all tickets doesn't mean they were sold to people who wanted to see the concert


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Well then u2 magically sold out a venue in the last few seconds, if a band wanted to sell out a show they could buy the last few remaining tickets,
Well, then Bruce Springsteen could have bought the last 617 tickets to his show so it would have said "Soldout". Thats not the way it works.

By the way, U2 have been releasing new tickets the day of the show since 1985. The promoter tries to release only a number of tickets they feel the artist will definitely be able to sell on the day of the show.


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You could say that about ANY concert in history.


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If any tickets put on sale were not sold, it would be listed in the boxscore.

For example, also in this weeks BOXSCORE results, are results for Bruce Springsteen in Bilbao, Spain

July 26, 2009
Bilbao, Spain
Estadio San Mames
GROSS: $3,409,189
ATTENDANCE: 36,318
CAPACITY: 36,935
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 0
Average Ticket Price: $93.87
Tickets not sold: 617
A few weeks ago Coldplay and Greenday had a few concerts listed that were far from sell outs. All shows indicated that they were not sellouts, so if BOXSCORE listings had "forced" sellouts, then we would never see non-sell outs like those or the one Maoil posted above.


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So Croke Park didn't sell out in the end, not surprising, they kept putting extra tickets on sale right up to the show and didn't sell them
It did sell out.

Keep in mind, though, that there is a minimum attendance required for any show or sporting event to be considered a "sell out". So while the stadium may have room for more, as it sold at least X number of seats, it is a sell out.

Of course, that number has to be high. It's not like selling 40,000 seats in a stadium that holds 80,000 would be a sell out. But selling 70,000 may be enough. I see this all the time when I go to sporting events as well. I also agree with Genesis199125 in that the promoters may initially release so many tickets - enough to be considered a "sell out" without being obviously low. Once those sell, the considered is considered "sold out", even though more tickets may then become available.


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It did sell out.

Once those sell, the considered is considered "sold out", even though more tickets may then become available.

Oopsy - typing too fast again. I meant to say that "Once those sell, the CONCERT is considered "sold out"...".

I also want to stress the sporting aspect again. I've been to a few baseball games lately and we can still see seats available. They'll announce the attendance and state how it's a "sell out". So my friends and I feel that there must be a minimum number used to consider the stadium sold out, even if there are a few seats still around.

Of course, we also know that some season ticket holders might not go to every game. This may account for some empty seats, but not quite as many as we observed.

But why complain? Sell outs are good!


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It did sell out.

Keep in mind, though, that there is a minimum attendance required for any show or sporting event to be considered a "sell out". So while the stadium may have room for more, as it sold at least X number of seats, it is a sell out.

Of course, that number has to be high. It's not like selling 40,000 seats in a stadium that holds 80,000 would be a sell out. But selling 70,000 may be enough. I see this all the time when I go to sporting events as well. I also agree with Genesis199125 in that the promoters may initially release so many tickets - enough to be considered a "sell out" without being obviously low. Once those sell, the considered is considered "sold out", even though more tickets may then become available.
So, the notion of a 'sellout' is, in the practical sense, a marketing / PR stunt rather than necessarily being precisely true? Surely if promoters can set a venue's capacity then they're basically doing everything they can to ensure that a concert is sold out - fair enough, I guess. But I know from personal experience that, no matter what the stats say, the Dublin concert I went to wasn't completely full. There were four empty seats beside me that nobody ever claimed. Does that mean that those four ticketholders went to Croke Park, had their tickets scanned, but then for some reason didn't sit where they were supposed to? Or do the Billboard figures only refer to tickets sold, and not those scanned on the night? If that's the case, then it doesn't take into account the less than face value tickets being openly scalped on O'Connell Street on Friday 24th July!


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