Live Tunings

Mofo · 10-11-2006, 10:54 PM

Hi guys a while ago there was a thread about the live tunings and JMScoopy came up with this one from a standard Vertigo tour setlist

s- standard tuning
h- half step down
f- full step down

cobl- h
vertigo- s
elevation- s
electric co - h
ISHFWILF- h
MD- s
OOTS- s
SYCMIOYO -s
LAPOE - (open D tuning)
SBS- f
bullet - h
rtss - h
pride- f
streets - s
one - h

zoo station - h
the fly - h
WOWY - h

ABOY - s
yahweh - s?
40 - s

as far as I can tell it's pretty accurate, but I was hoping if we could help each other from missing songs (like Beautiful Day, Fast Cars, Mysterious Ways, acoustic versions of Stuck, Wild Horses, Walk On, etc) and past tours so here's some to get started I'm extremely tone-deaf so please any help would be greatly appreciated

Zoo TV

zoo station- h
the fly- h
even better-
mysterious ways-
one- h
until the end-
trying to throw- h
wild horses-
new years day-
numb-
angel of harlem-
stay
satellite of love-
bad-
dirty day-
bullet- h
running to stand still- h
where the streets have no name- h
pride- h
desire-
daddy is gonna-
ultraviolet-
lemon-
with or without you- h
love is blindness-

I'm, pretty sure with the few I've got but any corrections would be great, I'll try to fill in the missing songs tomorrow, as well as an Elevation setlist

tpsglick2424 · 10-11-2006, 11:45 PM

desire is a half step

Muad'zin · 10-12-2006, 08:52 AM

Until Zoo TV everything was tuned to a standard semitone down. During Popmart Bono couldn't reach the highnotes on certain songs like Pride and ISHFWILF and these were played on instruments tuned down a full tone

With Elevation the rulebook went out of the window and most new songs get played on normal tuned instruments, some oldies also, some still a semitone down and only problem cases like SBS and Pride the full tone down or even further.

Mofo · 10-12-2006, 11:47 AM

thanks Muad'zin I was starting to wonder if I'd come up with anything in standard tuning in Zoo TV

so why woud they start playing most of the stuff in standard tuning? If Zoo TV is probably the best Bono's ever sound (well probably Joshua/Love Town Tours) but Zoo TV is not far behind
Standard tuning would strain Bono's voice more

Muad'zin · 10-12-2006, 10:10 PM

Beats me?

Maybe he thinks he's a vocal superman or he took lessons since then. I can understand him wanting to sing the new stuff as is on the record. But to actually sing old stuff like IWF, OOC and 11:00 in standard tuning when these songs were never in standard tuning is a bit of a mystery. The only reason I can think of is Edge's explorer guitar. That was the guitar used for those songs and since Elevation it has been tuned in a standard tuning as its also the guitar for Beautiful day and Miracle Drug.

Mofo · 10-12-2006, 10:21 PM

another thing that really suprises me is that I can never hear Bono breathing in as opposed to most singers where you can hear them breathing in right before singing

discothequeLP · 10-12-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Muad'zin
The only reason I can think of is Edge's explorer guitar. That was the guitar used for those songs and since Elevation it has been tuned in a standard tuning as its also the guitar for Beautiful day and Miracle Drug.

didn't they do Beautiful Day, Out of Control, I Will Follow, and 11 O'Clock Tick Tock a half step down on the Elevation tour? it would help for Miracle Drug a lot.

Muad'zin · 10-18-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by discothequeLP

didn't they do Beautiful Day, Out of Control, I Will Follow, and 11 O'Clock Tick Tock a half step down on the Elevation tour? it would help for Miracle Drug a lot.

All standard tuning, baby! The Explorer got tuned normally and suddenly ALL songs that were played on the Explorer were in standard tuning.

Mofo · 10-26-2006, 02:52 PM

Does anyone know if Stay was played in standard or half in ZooTV and Elevation?

MTEdge · 11-02-2006, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mofo
Does anyone know if Stay was played in standard or half in ZooTV and Elevation?

Pretty sure that for both tours, Stay was halfstep down, same as the album.

tpsreports2424 · 11-02-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Mofo
another thing that really suprises me is that I can never hear Bono breathing in as opposed to most singers where you can hear them breathing in right before singing

I have always wondered that but I saw a few videos and before he sings he puts hit mic. to the side so he can take in some air...

Either that or I have no clue...

Muad'zin · 11-06-2006, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mofo
Does anyone know if Stay was played in standard or half in ZooTV and Elevation?

Not a complaint nor a rant, but I've always wondered, why do people find it so hard to determine in which key U2 play live? Is it that hard to hear the difference between regular and standard tuning? I usually hear it in seconds. And I'm not even good at it.

Then again I did learn to figure stuff out by ear in the 80's. When there was no handy internet to ask questions first.

Mofo · 11-06-2006, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muad'zin

Not a complaint nor a rant, but I've always wondered, why do people find it so hard to determine in which key U2 play live? Is it that hard to hear the difference between regular and standard tuning? I usually hear it in seconds. And I'm not even good at it.

Then again I did learn to figure stuff out by ear in the 80's. When there was no handy internet to ask questions first.

Well my only excuse is I'm tone deaf, I usually have a hard time learning songs just by ear, I'll do simple solos but other than that I depend a lot on tab sites, as for the tunings, I am getting better, but Stay I wasn't sure so that's why I asked

Muad'zin · 11-08-2006, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mofo

Well my only excuse is I'm tone deaf, I usually have a hard time learning songs just by ear, I'll do simple solos but other than that I depend a lot on tab sites, as for the tunings, I am getting better, but Stay I wasn't sure so that's why I asked

Fair enough. But surely you are the exception, right? It would be hard to believe this whole subforum is full of tone deaf people.

Mofo · 11-08-2006, 07:09 PM

maybe lazy people

still it's not easy for everyone. I have two electric guitars but for a couple of years I had one stored, so until a few months ago I decided to buy new strings and now I have a guitar in standard and another in half step down so now it's easier for me to compare

10-11-2006, 10:54 PM	#1
Mofo War Child Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: MTY, Mexico Posts: 983 Local Time: 10:50 PM	Live Tunings Hi guys a while ago there was a thread about the live tunings and JMScoopy came up with this one from a standard Vertigo tour setlist s- standard tuning h- half step down f- full step down cobl- h vertigo- s elevation- s electric co - h ISHFWILF- h MD- s OOTS- s SYCMIOYO -s LAPOE - (open D tuning) SBS- f bullet - h rtss - h pride- f streets - s one - h zoo station - h the fly - h WOWY - h ABOY - s yahweh - s? 40 - s as far as I can tell it's pretty accurate, but I was hoping if we could help each other from missing songs (like Beautiful Day, Fast Cars, Mysterious Ways, acoustic versions of Stuck, Wild Horses, Walk On, etc) and past tours so here's some to get started I'm extremely tone-deaf so please any help would be greatly appreciated Zoo TV zoo station- h the fly- h even better- mysterious ways- one- h until the end- trying to throw- h wild horses- new years day- numb- angel of harlem- stay satellite of love- bad- dirty day- bullet- h running to stand still- h where the streets have no name- h pride- h desire- daddy is gonna- ultraviolet- lemon- with or without you- h love is blindness- I'm, pretty sure with the few I've got but any corrections would be great, I'll try to fill in the missing songs tomorrow, as well as an Elevation setlist

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10-11-2006, 11:45 PM	#2
tpsglick2424 Refugee Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,434 Local Time: 10:50 PM	desire is a half step

10-12-2006, 08:52 AM	#3
Muad'zin War Child Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Nijmegen, the Netherlands Posts: 852 Local Time: 05:50 AM	Until Zoo TV everything was tuned to a standard semitone down. During Popmart Bono couldn't reach the highnotes on certain songs like Pride and ISHFWILF and these were played on instruments tuned down a full tone With Elevation the rulebook went out of the window and most new songs get played on normal tuned instruments, some oldies also, some still a semitone down and only problem cases like SBS and Pride the full tone down or even further.

10-12-2006, 11:47 AM	#4
Mofo War Child Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: MTY, Mexico Posts: 983 Local Time: 10:50 PM	thanks Muad'zin I was starting to wonder if I'd come up with anything in standard tuning in Zoo TV so why woud they start playing most of the stuff in standard tuning? If Zoo TV is probably the best Bono's ever sound (well probably Joshua/Love Town Tours) but Zoo TV is not far behind Standard tuning would strain Bono's voice more

10-12-2006, 10:10 PM	#5
Muad'zin War Child Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Nijmegen, the Netherlands Posts: 852 Local Time: 05:50 AM	Beats me? Maybe he thinks he's a vocal superman or he took lessons since then. I can understand him wanting to sing the new stuff as is on the record. But to actually sing old stuff like IWF, OOC and 11:00 in standard tuning when these songs were never in standard tuning is a bit of a mystery. The only reason I can think of is Edge's explorer guitar. That was the guitar used for those songs and since Elevation it has been tuned in a standard tuning as its also the guitar for Beautiful day and Miracle Drug.

10-12-2006, 10:21 PM	#6
Mofo War Child Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: MTY, Mexico Posts: 983 Local Time: 10:50 PM	another thing that really suprises me is that I can never hear Bono breathing in as opposed to most singers where you can hear them breathing in right before singing

10-26-2006, 02:52 PM	#9
Mofo War Child Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: MTY, Mexico Posts: 983 Local Time: 10:50 PM	Does anyone know if Stay was played in standard or half in ZooTV and Elevation?

11-08-2006, 07:09 PM	#15
Mofo War Child Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: MTY, Mexico Posts: 983 Local Time: 10:50 PM	maybe lazy people still it's not easy for everyone. I have two electric guitars but for a couple of years I had one stored, so until a few months ago I decided to buy new strings and now I have a guitar in standard and another in half step down so now it's easier for me to compare