Pride solo (stupid question)

louriec · 01-30-2008, 10:07 PM

Hey all,
So I know this is dumb but no one has really covered this. For the three notes Edge hits after the main riff (frets 11-12-14 or whatever it is), do you all pluck each note at the speed of the song or is there yet another delay trick I need to learn? Everytime I think I'm going to have to strum quick or finger pluck a song quickly, I later learn that there are delay techniques so that I don't have to. I've been struggling with this part of Pride I struggle and everyone else makes it look easy...thanks!

Galeongirl · 01-31-2008, 02:24 PM

I don't know about the delay techniques, so I just play it really quickly....

louriec · 01-31-2008, 03:45 PM

Damnit, I can't finger pick that quickly!

Muad'zin · 01-31-2008, 06:07 PM

Come on! Every heavy metal guitarist who's only played for a few months knows how to do it, surely we can?

Have you tried playing it with a delay set to this?

Quote:

There's 1 delay. This is the most likely signal path:

Guitar -> Guitar split to A/B ->

A -> main signal (no delay) -> Amp A (panned slightly left)

B -> 418ms (1-2 repeats) (85% of initial signal) = 3/16 @ 108 bpm -> Amp B (panned slightly right)
no dry signal (delay only) with modulation

You could emulate this well with just 1 amp: simply have the main and delayed signal together. You
won't get the bigger stereo effect of course.

louriec · 01-31-2008, 06:55 PM

This sounds dumb, but I'm a newbie to this: How do I have the main and delayed signal together...

Muad'zin · 02-05-2008, 11:59 AM

Most delay pedals/units have a knob allowing you to set the mix between dry signal and the delay. On a Boss pedal it's usually the most left one named Level. Unlike a distortion the level doesn't control the volume as the pedal doesn't change the sound, it adds repeats to a dry signal.
Turn it fully down, no echo, turn it fully up, only echo. On some other pedals it's called mix or echo level. Unlike

40% wet/60% dry works best for me. I find that the repeats sound best when softer then the dry signal. To much effectlevel and you leave U2 territory and you venture into Radioheadland.

Moser · 02-07-2008, 10:03 AM

I get a nice delay setting at 467 ms. It could be my pedal, but at 418 ms the echo's seem to muddled together with the dry signal, but that's what I get with cheap equipment.

Anyway, Edge plays the solo for each measure (I believe) as:

11-12-14 11-12-14 11-12-14
-----------------------------------------12--

Play the B note at the end of each measure (live versions that is). Just time it to the beat.

louriec · 02-07-2008, 10:04 AM

Yea that's just the problem I'm having. I was hoping I wasn't going to have to finger pick as fast as it sounds but it looks like that's the only way to do it

pacemaker · 02-10-2008, 10:24 AM

Finger pick? I'm thinking you've just got the term wrong.

Alternate picking helps with riffs/solos/licks like these. i.e. Don't hit the set of three notes all three times using only down picks. Pick down, up, down.

louriec · 02-10-2008, 07:11 PM

Would you believe that alternate picking is harder for me than finger picking all down picks quickly

EdgeIsTooSexy · 02-11-2008, 08:26 PM

No. When I first started playing alternate picking was like speaking a different language....well thats exaggerating a bit

mackemlad · 02-24-2008, 03:52 AM

I heard that Edge actually only plays one note at the start of each song and all his effects do the rest.

No wonder he looks so relaxed when he plays!

Seriously tho this is the trouble with trying to learn U2 songs you end up trying to master effects rather than the guitar.

For erxample

"Set your delay to 412ms and pan through two amps one with the dry signal on with the delayed signal"

What?

Sit down and learn how to alternate pick, learn how to play the guitar and then use effects to enhance your improved playing.

Dont forget edge is a fantastic guitar player!

Take away all his gadgets and he will still sound like edge his style and sound is in his fingers & brain. His effects enhance it (a lot)

My advise for what its worth.

Learn u2 songs so you can strum along with them. If you want to form a tribute band then worry about the sound untill then dont bother.

Learn hoe to play the guitar first

Galeongirl · 02-24-2008, 03:44 PM

uh no, Edge doesn't play only one note... ofcourse his delay helps with the notes, but he does play them all... check videos for that!

EdgeIsTooSexy · 02-24-2008, 11:22 PM

yeah.

but you still sound pretty shitty trying to match up with edges effects.

louriec · 02-25-2008, 07:59 AM

Thanks for the requests. I figured out a way to play it without having to just alternate pick the whole thing. I just use the effects and time it right so that it's easier to play and I still get the fluid rising notes sound

01-30-2008, 10:07 PM	#1
louriec Babyface Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 14 Local Time: 06:50 PM	Pride solo (stupid question) Hey all, So I know this is dumb but no one has really covered this. For the three notes Edge hits after the main riff (frets 11-12-14 or whatever it is), do you all pluck each note at the speed of the song or is there yet another delay trick I need to learn? Everytime I think I'm going to have to strum quick or finger pluck a song quickly, I later learn that there are delay techniques so that I don't have to. I've been struggling with this part of Pride I struggle and everyone else makes it look easy...thanks!

02-07-2008, 10:03 AM	#7
Moser Would Rather Be Flying Premium Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Terre Haute, IN Posts: 591 Local Time: 01:50 PM	I get a nice delay setting at 467 ms. It could be my pedal, but at 418 ms the echo's seem to muddled together with the dry signal, but that's what I get with cheap equipment. Anyway, Edge plays the solo for each measure (I believe) as: 11-12-14 11-12-14 11-12-14 -----------------------------------------12-- Play the B note at the end of each measure (live versions that is). Just time it to the beat. __________________ Edge steps on your Mother.

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01-31-2008, 03:45 PM	#3
louriec Babyface Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 14 Local Time: 06:50 PM	Damnit, I can't finger pick that quickly!

01-31-2008, 06:55 PM	#5
louriec Babyface Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 14 Local Time: 06:50 PM	This sounds dumb, but I'm a newbie to this: How do I have the main and delayed signal together...

02-05-2008, 11:59 AM	#6
Muad'zin War Child Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Nijmegen, the Netherlands Posts: 851 Local Time: 07:50 PM	Most delay pedals/units have a knob allowing you to set the mix between dry signal and the delay. On a Boss pedal it's usually the most left one named Level. Unlike a distortion the level doesn't control the volume as the pedal doesn't change the sound, it adds repeats to a dry signal. Turn it fully down, no echo, turn it fully up, only echo. On some other pedals it's called mix or echo level. Unlike 40% wet/60% dry works best for me. I find that the repeats sound best when softer then the dry signal. To much effectlevel and you leave U2 territory and you venture into Radioheadland.

02-07-2008, 10:04 AM	#8
louriec Babyface Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 14 Local Time: 06:50 PM	Yea that's just the problem I'm having. I was hoping I wasn't going to have to finger pick as fast as it sounds but it looks like that's the only way to do it

02-10-2008, 10:24 AM	#9
pacemaker Acrobat Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 331 Local Time: 01:50 PM	Finger pick? I'm thinking you've just got the term wrong. Alternate picking helps with riffs/solos/licks like these. i.e. Don't hit the set of three notes all three times using only down picks. Pick down, up, down.

02-10-2008, 07:11 PM	#10
louriec Babyface Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 14 Local Time: 06:50 PM	Would you believe that alternate picking is harder for me than finger picking all down picks quickly

02-11-2008, 08:26 PM	#11
EdgeIsTooSexy Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hoping to play guitar with U2 on stage, [NOW LONG ISLAND] Posts: 8,812 Local Time: 01:50 PM	No. When I first started playing alternate picking was like speaking a different language....well thats exaggerating a bit

02-24-2008, 03:52 AM	#12
mackemlad The Fly Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sunderland,England Posts: 129 Local Time: 06:50 PM	I heard that Edge actually only plays one note at the start of each song and all his effects do the rest. No wonder he looks so relaxed when he plays! Seriously tho this is the trouble with trying to learn U2 songs you end up trying to master effects rather than the guitar. For erxample "Set your delay to 412ms and pan through two amps one with the dry signal on with the delayed signal" What? Sit down and learn how to alternate pick, learn how to play the guitar and then use effects to enhance your improved playing. Dont forget edge is a fantastic guitar player! Take away all his gadgets and he will still sound like edge his style and sound is in his fingers & brain. His effects enhance it (a lot) My advise for what its worth. Learn u2 songs so you can strum along with them. If you want to form a tribute band then worry about the sound untill then dont bother. Learn hoe to play the guitar first

02-24-2008, 11:22 PM	#14
EdgeIsTooSexy Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hoping to play guitar with U2 on stage, [NOW LONG ISLAND] Posts: 8,812 Local Time: 01:50 PM	yeah. but you still sound pretty shitty trying to match up with edges effects.

02-25-2008, 07:59 AM	#15
louriec Babyface Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 14 Local Time: 06:50 PM	Thanks for the requests. I figured out a way to play it without having to just alternate pick the whole thing. I just use the effects and time it right so that it's easier to play and I still get the fluid rising notes sound