Fifth leg setlists.

Axver · 07-10-2006, 11:38 PM

With an announcement of dates imminent and rumours abounding of three shows in a couple of Aussie cities, I've started to give some more thought to the upcoming sets. I've previously subscribed to the school of thought that suggests the sets will be pretty much what was played on the fourth leg (given the huge gap between dates, I really don't think it's fair to consider the upcoming dates as part of the fourth leg).

But the fourth leg didn't acquire a static, fully defined setlist. All Because Of You made only two shows. Original Of The Species, Yahweh, and Fast Cars cropped up a few times. Stuck In A Moment and The First Time weren't permanent. All I Want Is You started to settle in as a closer but who knows if that will last or if 40 will be back. COBL started opening the stadium shows, but maybe U2 will revert to Vertigo? Keep in mind, in the Southern Hemisphere, the sun sets later in the evening in November/December than in March, though I'm not sure if it would set late enough to impact visuals in cities like Auckland (I know it definitely would not in Brisbane even on the longest day as it's completely dark by 8pm!).

Also, keep in mind Australia missed out on Elevation after initial reports suggested U2 were coming, so what Elevation material might we see? I think Stuck In A Moment, if it wasn't definite before, is thoroughly certain now if the dates do fall in November, given the proximity to the anniversary of Hutchence's suicide. Might we also see Walk On? And as faint a chance as this is, In A Little While or even something not played since Elevation?

And then there's the unresolved question from the original dates: will we get location-specific songs? Specifically, we're all well aware of One Tree Hill in New Zealand, but there's also the case of Van Diemen's Land in Melbourne, just across Bass Strait from the real Van Diemen's Land, Tasmania. And here's an idea so far removed from reality that I'm typing it more for the amusement factor than anything else: might U2 finally get their act together and play Mofo?

I do hope we get third nights in Melbourne and Sydney - they'd sell for sure, and we could get some interesting sets. Maybe we'd be lucky enough to hear Fast Cars. I honestly think that after all this time, we may see a few setlist alterations. Of course, the core set will stay - the War series, the Africa trilogy, and I expect we'll get the Zoo encore. But some other parts could be variable; the band especially seemed to not nail down a firm second encore on the fourth leg. Bring on One Tree Hill, I say!

MacHat · 07-10-2006, 11:47 PM

I was thinking about this the other day, I was thinking they should play Mofo here in NZ, since we didn't get Popmart

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phillyfan26 · 07-10-2006, 11:49 PM

It could easily be like ZooTV where they suddenly change it. Zoomerang had Dirty Day, Daddy's Gonna Pay, and Lemon.

And they've had plenty of time to practice songs they want to add.

Arcadion · 07-11-2006, 12:40 AM

I hope we get an INXS cover for Sydney.
Don't Change

OK maybe that's asking for too much but this isnt:
OOTS EVERY NIGHT!!!

Axver · 07-11-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by MacHat
I was thinking about this the other day, I was thinking they should play Mofo here in NZ, since we didn't get Popmart .

Back in March, my dream was that New Zealand would get Mofo. I believe early Popmart tour programmes actually listed New Zealand (and Singapore) as somewhere the tour would visit. It's a shame that didn't turn into reality, and I hope NZ gets at least one Pop song. Even if I'm not there to hear it.

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Originally posted by phillyfan26
It could easily be like ZooTV where they suddenly change it. Zoomerang had Dirty Day, Daddy's Gonna Pay, and Lemon.

And they've had plenty of time to practice songs they want to add.

As true as that is, the fifth leg of ZooTV followed the Zooropa album while it appears that this time, there's no new material on the horizon.

phillyfan26 · 07-11-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by Axver
As true as that is, the fifth leg of ZooTV followed the Zooropa album while it appears that this time, there's no new material on the horizon.

I'm not saying with new material, but material they haven't used on Vertigo. We do need a little extra Pop. New Zealand deserves some extra Pop!

Or maybe we'll have a new song about the injustice NZ has faced without Pop material...?

Nisse · 07-11-2006, 12:14 PM

We're still waiting for Electrical Storm and ugh.. A Man And A Woman. One Step Closer as a snippet maybe? I guess a slim chance for the boy miniset instead of the overused boring UTEOTW->NYD->ISHFWILF.

phillyfan26 · 07-11-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Nisse
We're still waiting for Electrical Storm and ugh.. A Man And A Woman. One Step Closer as a snippet maybe? I guess a slim chance for the boy miniset instead of the overused boring UTEOTW->NYD->ISHFWILF.

UTEOTW and NYD are still great. It's Still Haven't Found that needs to go.

Axver · 07-11-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by phillyfan26

I'm not saying with new material, but material they haven't used on Vertigo. We do need a little extra Pop. New Zealand deserves some extra Pop!

Or maybe we'll have a new song about the injustice NZ has faced without Pop material...?

What I meant is that the new songs on ZooTV's fifth leg were all new songs; U2 didn't bring any old songs out of retirement despite the long break. So if there were some new material on the horizon, we'd probably see that in the set, but as there isn't, will they use some time to rehearse old material or just go with what they had? I guess it's hard to know given there is no precedent.

And ha, what a great song idea: "We Regret Rorting New Zealand Out Of Popmart". And then they release an EP, "Sorry To All The Countries We've Never Visited".

Blue Room · 07-11-2006, 07:31 PM

My guess is there wont be anything drastically different from what has been done so far on the tour (and I mean out of all the setlists they have done, not just 4th leg). I would guess the differences will be of the snippet variety mainly. I could possibly see something new that is acoustic. Most likely the setlists will be similiar to the 4th leg setlists. As Axver mentioned though the lighting could be a factor. If its not dark by showtime, I think Vertigo will reappear as the opener like in Europe. Which means it could be the reappearence of Vertigo X2!

I can already see the bitching threads starting about that.

From all the reports I have been seeing they have been dealing with their personal life OR they have been in the studio working on new material. I dont think they have spent any of the off time so far rehearsing anything for the 5th leg. So at this point, the large break means nothing as far as them adding different songs to the setlist.

Axver · 07-11-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Blue Room
As Axver mentioned though the lighting could be a factor. If its not dark by showtime, I think Vertigo will reappear as the opener like in Europe.

I just did some research on sunset times in the relevant cities, and if the concerts are in November, I think U2 won't have problems. Brisbane, Sydney, and Adelaide are definitely fine, with the sun setting prior to 9pm even on the longest day in December, and in November, sunset is around or before 8pm. Melbourne's is a little later but doesn't get past 9pm either, and the Telstra Dome has a roof anyway. Auckland is roughly the same as Melbourne, and Wellington, were it added, would probably not be problematic either as sunset falls earlier than 9pm during the relevant timeframe. The only city that could pose a problem is Christchurch, if it is added: sunset is close to 9pm in late November, and after 7 December, it is after 9pm.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but if darkness = COBL opening, then COBL will probably stay.

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From all the reports I have been seeing they have been dealing with their personal life OR they have been in the studio working on new material. I dont think they have spent any of the off time so far rehearsing anything for the 5th leg. So at this point, the large break means nothing as far as them adding different songs to the setlist.

Though would there be much point in rehearsing material for the tour now? If the shows take place in November, that's still four months away.

Blue Room · 07-11-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by Axver

Though would there be much point in rehearsing material for the tour now? If the shows take place in November, that's still four months away.

There wouldnt be any point in it. But someone mentioned that they could have spent all this time working on new songs to play so they were a possibility. I was commenting on that.

My guess would be they wont start playing as a live band again until a week or two before the tour re-starts. The focus then will be to get the songs they were doing before back in good shape and I doubt they will be focused on adding something different then.

Like I have been saying, I'm guessing based on their touring history and rehearsal/soundcheck history. Of course they could surprise everyone. But I think the odds are much greater that this will happen over what U2 typically does.

LemonMacPhisto · 07-11-2006, 11:17 PM

I see them playing the 4 singles from ATYCLB, One Tree Hill, and All I Want is You with a Never Tear Us Apart snippet some time during at leg.

I hope any song from Pop rises from the cellar, Gone most likely will show up.

theu2fly · 07-12-2006, 12:51 AM

I don't think it's going to be darker to open with COBL... so here's my projected setlist

Vertigo
I Will Follow
Elevation
The Electric Co.
New Year's Day
Beautiful Day
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
One Tree Hill
City Of Blinding Lights
Miracle Drug
Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
Love And Peace Or Else
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Bullet The Blue Sky
Miss Sarajevo
Pride (In The Name Of Love)
Where The Streets Have No Name
One

MOFO
The Fly
Electrical Storm
With Or Without You

Yahweh
Original Of The Species
40

Axver · 07-12-2006, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by theu2fly
I don't think it's going to be darker to open with COBL

Why not? I checked the sunset times on timeanddate.com for November and December, and only Christchurch after 7 December could really cause problems.

Australia and New Zealand are not as far south as Europe is north, so you don't get the sun up to ridiculously late hours unless you're down around Invercargill/Dunedin way.

07-10-2006, 11:38 PM	#1
Axver Assver, Setlist Antichrist Premium Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: A Melbourne tram departing Wellington Posts: 88,887 Local Time: 07:23 PM	Fifth leg setlists. With an announcement of dates imminent and rumours abounding of three shows in a couple of Aussie cities, I've started to give some more thought to the upcoming sets. I've previously subscribed to the school of thought that suggests the sets will be pretty much what was played on the fourth leg (given the huge gap between dates, I really don't think it's fair to consider the upcoming dates as part of the fourth leg). But the fourth leg didn't acquire a static, fully defined setlist. All Because Of You made only two shows. Original Of The Species, Yahweh, and Fast Cars cropped up a few times. Stuck In A Moment and The First Time weren't permanent. All I Want Is You started to settle in as a closer but who knows if that will last or if 40 will be back. COBL started opening the stadium shows, but maybe U2 will revert to Vertigo? Keep in mind, in the Southern Hemisphere, the sun sets later in the evening in November/December than in March, though I'm not sure if it would set late enough to impact visuals in cities like Auckland (I know it definitely would not in Brisbane even on the longest day as it's completely dark by 8pm!). Also, keep in mind Australia missed out on Elevation after initial reports suggested U2 were coming, so what Elevation material might we see? I think Stuck In A Moment, if it wasn't definite before, is thoroughly certain now if the dates do fall in November, given the proximity to the anniversary of Hutchence's suicide. Might we also see Walk On? And as faint a chance as this is, In A Little While or even something not played since Elevation? And then there's the unresolved question from the original dates: will we get location-specific songs? Specifically, we're all well aware of One Tree Hill in New Zealand, but there's also the case of Van Diemen's Land in Melbourne, just across Bass Strait from the real Van Diemen's Land, Tasmania. And here's an idea so far removed from reality that I'm typing it more for the amusement factor than anything else: might U2 finally get their act together and play Mofo? I do hope we get third nights in Melbourne and Sydney - they'd sell for sure, and we could get some interesting sets. Maybe we'd be lucky enough to hear Fast Cars. I honestly think that after all this time, we may see a few setlist alterations. Of course, the core set will stay - the War series, the Africa trilogy, and I expect we'll get the Zoo encore. But some other parts could be variable; the band especially seemed to not nail down a firm second encore on the fourth leg. Bring on One Tree Hill, I say! __________________ "Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard “Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat.” - Ian McCulloch U2gigs.com: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database on the web! Contradiction is balance: Axver's blog \| Axver's crappy photography

07-10-2006, 11:49 PM	#3
phillyfan26 ROCK, FLAG, AND EAGLE! Premium Gold Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: A Shithole Posts: 23,544 Local Time: 03:23 AM	It could easily be like ZooTV where they suddenly change it. Zoomerang had Dirty Day, Daddy's Gonna Pay, and Lemon. And they've had plenty of time to practice songs they want to add. __________________ Philadelphia Phillies - 2008 World Fuckin' Champions

07-11-2006, 07:31 PM	#10
Blue Room Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: MICHIGAN, GO BLUE! Posts: 6,372 Local Time: 03:23 AM Images: 8	My guess is there wont be anything drastically different from what has been done so far on the tour (and I mean out of all the setlists they have done, not just 4th leg). I would guess the differences will be of the snippet variety mainly. I could possibly see something new that is acoustic. Most likely the setlists will be similiar to the 4th leg setlists. As Axver mentioned though the lighting could be a factor. If its not dark by showtime, I think Vertigo will reappear as the opener like in Europe. Which means it could be the reappearence of Vertigo X2! I can already see the bitching threads starting about that. From all the reports I have been seeing they have been dealing with their personal life OR they have been in the studio working on new material. I dont think they have spent any of the off time so far rehearsing anything for the 5th leg. So at this point, the large break means nothing as far as them adding different songs to the setlist. Last edited by Blue Room; 07-11-2006 at 07:34 PM..

07-11-2006, 11:17 PM	#13
LemonMacPhisto Honky HONKY! Premium Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Always in the sun Posts: 28,213 Local Time: 03:23 AM	I see them playing the 4 singles from ATYCLB, One Tree Hill, and All I Want is You with a Never Tear Us Apart snippet some time during at leg. I hope any song from Pop rises from the cellar, Gone most likely will show up. __________________

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07-10-2006, 11:47 PM	#2
MacHat Refugee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,235 Local Time: 08:23 PM	I was thinking about this the other day, I was thinking they should play Mofo here in NZ, since we didn't get Popmart .

07-11-2006, 12:40 AM	#4
Arcadion Acrobat Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 454 Local Time: 08:23 AM	I hope we get an INXS cover for Sydney. Don't Change OK maybe that's asking for too much but this isnt: OOTS EVERY NIGHT!!!

07-11-2006, 12:14 PM	#7
Nisse Refugee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,024 Local Time: 08:23 AM	We're still waiting for Electrical Storm and ugh.. A Man And A Woman. One Step Closer as a snippet maybe? I guess a slim chance for the boy miniset instead of the overused boring UTEOTW->NYD->ISHFWILF.

07-12-2006, 12:51 AM	#14
theu2fly Refugee Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,937 Local Time: 08:23 AM Images: 8	I don't think it's going to be darker to open with COBL... so here's my projected setlist Vertigo I Will Follow Elevation The Electric Co. New Year's Day Beautiful Day I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For One Tree Hill City Of Blinding Lights Miracle Drug Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own Love And Peace Or Else Sunday Bloody Sunday Bullet The Blue Sky Miss Sarajevo Pride (In The Name Of Love) Where The Streets Have No Name One MOFO The Fly Electrical Storm With Or Without You Yahweh Original Of The Species 40