Interference Random Music Talk Part XI: Buttmeat Rides Again - Page 3

lazarus · 11-10-2009, 08:39 PM

Beano lays the smackdown on the anti-Shuttlecock contingent over at THE FORK!

Pitchfork: Interviews: Brian Eno

A very hearty defense of the band.

corianderstem · 11-10-2009, 08:54 PM

I like this part:

Well, he has an enormous ego, but so do most of the people I like. [laughs] And also a big ego isn't necessarily a bad thing. A big ego means that you have some confidence in your abilities, really, and that you're prepared to take the risk of trying them out. I really don't think he's arrogant. That's a different thing.

I've always been puzzled by that particular criticism of Bono. So he has a big ego - what rock star doesn't? It's not like you hear about him walking around being a total prick to everyone, in fact you always hear the opposite. So who cares if he has a big ego?

And he's often very self-depracating, which goes a long way (at least with me) in balancing out what's perceived as having a big ego.

So that's nice to see the "ego" vs "arrogance" thing mentioned.

phillyfan26 · 11-10-2009, 11:53 PM

There's also an explanation as to why none of the record has Moroccan influence.

lazarus · 11-11-2009, 03:38 AM

I can buy that, I suppose. You'd think there's some room to meet in the middle, but I do not question THE BEANO!

elevated_u2_fan · 11-11-2009, 11:28 AM

I think Chemtrails may be my favourite Beck song yet I do not care for Modern Guilt very much.

Lancemc · 11-11-2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elevated_u2_fan

I think Chemtrails may be my favourite Beck song yet I do not care for Modern Guilt very much.

I prefer "Modern Guilt" and "Walls" from that album personally.

lazarus · 11-11-2009, 01:48 PM

I prefer not listening to post-Sea Change Beck.

Lancemc · 11-11-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazarus

I prefer not listening to post-Sea Change Beck.

Just as understandable, really.

Imperor · 11-11-2009, 02:13 PM

I still haven't noticed those highly touted Chan Marshall vocals on Modern Guilt. Apparently she's on "Orphans" and "Walls?" Well, she's impossible to distinguish, if that's the case. But maybe that's the point.

Guero and The Information both had a few good songs on them. Modern Guilt was a nice, concise affair. A step in the right direction. I've got nothing against post-Sea Change Beck. Nothing lives up to it, I mean it's one of my favorite albums ever, but there are enough quality tunes for me to keep coming back when he's got something new.

lazarus · 11-11-2009, 03:31 PM

Well that's the problem, isn't it? A few good songs or "nice concise affair" just don't cut it for me.

Lancemc · 11-11-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imperor

I still haven't noticed those highly touted Chan Marshall vocals on Modern Guilt. Apparently she's on "Orphans" and "Walls?"

This is news to me.

I will say though, that while Guero and The Information don't really make the cut, there isn't a track on Modern Guilt I don't at least enjoy. But as Laz says, it's just not enough.

Imperor · 11-11-2009, 03:43 PM

John Mayer is such a waste of talent*. Christ. Just tried to listen to his new album and couldn't make it through a few songs. Plus it's got one of the worst, most egotistical album covers I've seen in a while.

*If you think the guy isn't a phenomenal guitar player, you're an idiot. That's what I meant by talent.

lazarus · 11-11-2009, 03:52 PM

Being a great guitarist isn't enough to get me to listen to an album. Which is why I don't have much solo Clapton.

Did you actually think it was going to be listenable? The guy has a terrible voice.

He's got a sense of humor about himself, I'll give him that. But his music still sucks.

elevation2u · 11-11-2009, 04:05 PM

Agreed.

Imperor · 11-11-2009, 04:06 PM

There have been enough moments in his catalog that I've liked for me to hold out hope he'll make a good record. His voice definitely sucks, but sometimes the musicianship shines through that. His cringe-worthy stuff has always exceeded the good bits, but part of me definitely wants the guy to put together an album on par with the Trio live album.

I'd just like to hear him play lead in a blues band or something and not sing. Maybe that's the album I'm hoping for.

Either way, Battle Studies (appropriately abbreviated BS) is the worst album I've heard all year.

11-10-2009, 08:54 PM	#32
corianderstem Perfectly cromulent poster Premium Gold Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Half-assing my way to the top. Posts: 27,819 Local Time: 10:20 PM	I like this part: Well, he has an enormous ego, but so do most of the people I like. [laughs] And also a big ego isn't necessarily a bad thing. A big ego means that you have some confidence in your abilities, really, and that you're prepared to take the risk of trying them out. I really don't think he's arrogant. That's a different thing. I've always been puzzled by that particular criticism of Bono. So he has a big ego - what rock star doesn't? It's not like you hear about him walking around being a total prick to everyone, in fact you always hear the opposite. So who cares if he has a big ego? And he's often very self-depracating, which goes a long way (at least with me) in balancing out what's perceived as having a big ego. So that's nice to see the "ego" vs "arrogance" thing mentioned. __________________ (RAH)² (AH)³ + RO (MA + MAMA) + (GA)² + OOH(LA)²

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11-10-2009, 08:39 PM	#31
lazarus Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 15,946 Local Time: 10:20 PM	Beano lays the smackdown on the anti-Shuttlecock contingent over at THE FORK! Pitchfork: Interviews: Brian Eno A very hearty defense of the band.

11-10-2009, 11:53 PM	#33
phillyfan26 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30,441 Local Time: 01:20 AM	There's also an explanation as to why none of the record has Moroccan influence.

11-11-2009, 03:38 AM	#34
lazarus Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 15,946 Local Time: 10:20 PM	I can buy that, I suppose. You'd think there's some room to meet in the middle, but I do not question THE BEANO!

11-11-2009, 01:48 PM	#37
lazarus Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 15,946 Local Time: 10:20 PM	I prefer not listening to post-Sea Change Beck.

11-11-2009, 02:13 PM	#39
Imperor Refugee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Lone Star State Posts: 2,064 Local Time: 12:20 AM	I still haven't noticed those highly touted Chan Marshall vocals on Modern Guilt. Apparently she's on "Orphans" and "Walls?" Well, she's impossible to distinguish, if that's the case. But maybe that's the point. Guero and The Information both had a few good songs on them. Modern Guilt was a nice, concise affair. A step in the right direction. I've got nothing against post-Sea Change Beck. Nothing lives up to it, I mean it's one of my favorite albums ever, but there are enough quality tunes for me to keep coming back when he's got something new.

11-11-2009, 03:31 PM	#40
lazarus Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 15,946 Local Time: 10:20 PM	Well that's the problem, isn't it? A few good songs or "nice concise affair" just don't cut it for me.

11-11-2009, 03:43 PM	#42
Imperor Refugee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Lone Star State Posts: 2,064 Local Time: 12:20 AM	John Mayer is such a waste of talent. Christ. Just tried to listen to his new album and couldn't make it through a few songs. Plus it's got one of the worst, most egotistical album covers I've seen in a while. If you think the guy isn't a phenomenal guitar player, you're an idiot. That's what I meant by talent.

11-11-2009, 03:52 PM	#43
lazarus Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 15,946 Local Time: 10:20 PM	Being a great guitarist isn't enough to get me to listen to an album. Which is why I don't have much solo Clapton. Did you actually think it was going to be listenable? The guy has a terrible voice. He's got a sense of humor about himself, I'll give him that. But his music still sucks.

11-11-2009, 04:05 PM	#44
elevation2u Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: May 2002 Location: corner of Badlands & Magnolia Mountain Posts: 5,425 Local Time: 10:20 PM	Agreed.

11-11-2009, 04:06 PM	#45
Imperor Refugee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Lone Star State Posts: 2,064 Local Time: 12:20 AM	There have been enough moments in his catalog that I've liked for me to hold out hope he'll make a good record. His voice definitely sucks, but sometimes the musicianship shines through that. His cringe-worthy stuff has always exceeded the good bits, but part of me definitely wants the guy to put together an album on par with the Trio live album. I'd just like to hear him play lead in a blues band or something and not sing. Maybe that's the album I'm hoping for. Either way, Battle Studies (appropriately abbreviated BS) is the worst album I've heard all year.