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Pepe Silvia
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My computer started bugging midway through my Casino review and I really don't feel like writing that shit again, so here are my notes I starting typing around the first hour:
Focused light on certain characters - awesome technique Dual V.O. - like GoodFellas, but kept the movie rolling along Nicky - not a retread of Tommy from Goodfellas, more complex, vindictive character Sequence where Nicky starts knocking off high-rollers - amazing use of music/editing P.T. directly takes "inside the safe" shot and uses it with Donnie in 'Magnolia' "muddafuckin'" - I just love whenever Pesci says that. "An equal amount of blueberries in each muffin" - brilliant line that helps show Sam's need to control everything De Niro not wearing any pants in his office - oddly comical subtitled convo btw Nicky and Ace - another nice touch, showing how fucked up their lives are becoming Nicky saying "peekaboo" - I love Pesci Aces High, omg - the whole idea of that cracked me up. dissolves within action, to shorten run time? - since it was about 20-30 minutes too long anyway camera dip when the phone convo changes between wives and husbands - nice little move Glasses in the desert, wow. - arguably my favorite shot in the whole film, which is saying a lot Whip It? - along with the Devo version of "Satisfaction," Scorsese really outdid himself here Music in scene with Ginger and Lester arguing - another great use of music Ace and Ginger in the restaurant after she gets back - awesome scene of Sam and his need to be in control again Inside of the straw snorting coke. - brilliant shot My problem with this film wasn't just the runtime or the pacing. The scenes all moved at a brisk pace and along with the script, helped flesh out the three main characters well enough. They just weren't relateable (sp?) characters to follow for that long? De Niro's good in this, don't get me wrong, but I didn't feel his character make the big shift you expect to see in 3 hours, you know? He wants to keep control in his life and within the casino, desperately loves Ginger, who you know will never love him back, and tries to keep Nicky in check, who threatens to bring his whole world down. That's fine, I get that, but it's a cold character. The whole film is filled with these guys. At least it doesn't glamorize the lifestyle without showing the consequences, I hate when films do the former and ignore the latter, but that sense of family or connection present in GoodFellas just isn't here. It's probably intentional, showing how life was out alone in the oasis of the desert, aka Vegas, but in any film, you have to at least care about one character enough to want to follow them all the way through and this film lacked that. Also, Sharon Stone bugged the hell out of me, but she was supposed to be the money-grubbing, conniving bitch, so she did a good job with that. I didn't go into this with huge expectations, so I wasn't as let down by this like NSW and most others probably were, but I sure hope this is in the lower half of Scorsese's canon - which would still be better than most, anyway. As I've said above, trim about 20-30 minutes of this, make Sam a little bit more sympathetic (not too much that it'd betray the film though) and you've got a better film.
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I agree with your thoughts on De Niro. He had a smaller part in GoodFellas and yet had a much more interesting arc. The way he tries to get Karen to go to the wholesale dress place near the end is quietly menacing. You never really know what he's up to. In Casino, he's rather bland, and it's hard to pinpoint what he was going for. Contrast this with Heat, which came out the year before, where he's using minimalism to much more specific ends. Neil Macaulay is equally controlling, but there's a hidden longing to attach himself to someone, and a pride that ultimately becomes his undoing.
I haven't seen this in ages, and now that there's a special edition DVD I really need to revisit it. |
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After seeing Goodfellas g-d knows how many times, that scene with DeNiro and Karen and the dress place unnerves me.
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Pepe Silvia
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Did you agree with me on the runtime comment, too, or do you have to revisit it to make a final assessment?
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I do need to see it again, and yes, you're right, they're both 1995.
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Pepe Silvia
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How was Heat not nominated for anything at the Oscars that year?
When Christopher Nolan said that it was a huge influence on The Dark Knight, the lady friend agreed to watch it with me before that movies comes out. Pacino's acting in that movie is already an in-joke between us.
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Heat's fucking awesome. I know I say that a lot, but, fuck you both, I'm saying it again.
Heat's fucking awesome. Who? Who? What are you, a fucking owl?
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...Waingro?!
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"You know, for me....the action IS the juice"
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"I gotta hold on to my angst. I preserve it because I need it. It keeps me sharp, on the edge, where I gotta be."
Oh, Subtle Pacino is my favorite.
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"Oh, I see. So what I should do is, I should come home every day and say 'Hi honey. Guess what? I walked into this apartment today, where this junkie asshole had just fried his baby in a microwave, because it was crying to loud! So let me share that with you. Come on, let's share that, and in sharing that we'll somehow cathartically dispel all that heinous shit'. Right?"
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"Empathy was yesterday. Today, you're wasting my motherfucking time."
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Look at me. LOOK AT ME!!
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