Any idea why Edge isn't playing Ultraviolet like Zoo TV?

theu2fly · 09-21-2009, 02:03 AM

I love the 92-93 versions especially on the Explorer, when he slides the notes when Bono sings "I remember when we could sleep on stone" -- but now it just seems like some slight distortion on his Strat...

When they brought back Zoo Station it was on a Gibson like it was on 92-93... the Fly was even dirtier and harder with the Variax Line 6 instead of a Strat

Canadiens1131 · 09-21-2009, 02:24 AM

Probably for the same reason Bono isn't singing WOWY like on ZooTV.

coolian2 · 09-21-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadiens1131

Probably for the same reason Bono isn't singing WOWY like on ZooTV.

laziness?

zwervers2 · 09-21-2009, 03:46 AM

good question!

It is weird hearing it like this. I mean, if it was an improvement compared the ZOO tv fine but that part(guitarwise) sounds bland while the overall performance of the song is absolutely cool so I don't get it.

overall I am not so impressed with Edge this tour/ last couple of records.

oh well, what can you do..

last unicorn · 09-21-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by coolian2

laziness?

Because, unlike fans, they don't look back but instead try to do something new instead of just repeating themselves?

coolian2 · 09-21-2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by last unicorn

Because, unlike fans, they don't look back but instead try to do something new instead of just repeating themselves?

actually, off the forum i was discussing this thread and expressed the same sentiment you just did.

i was obviously kidding, but had to get a jab in a wowy as well.

**KhanadaRhodes** · 09-21-2009, 04:06 AM

you know, as amazing as performances have been of various songs of theirs over the years, i think i'd be disappointed if they were still performing everything like that today. just like with the sounds they produce on each album change, i'd expect their live performances to do the same. if they were still performing (for example) sunday bloody sunday like they did in 1983, i'd be shocked at their lack of attempt to evolve.

just purely judging their performances on 360 and discounting how i feel about the song itself, the only song i can say i'm disappointed with or not happy with is wowy. so that's not too bad i guess.

coolian2 · 09-21-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KhanadaRhodes

just purely judging their performances on 360 and discounting how i feel about the song itself, the only song i can say i'm disappointed with or not happy with is wowy. so that's not too bad i guess.

in terms of songs they're playing that i like, i completely agree with this. i'd add mysterious ways to the list, but i understand the solo has been restored so it's off the shit list.

Tyagu_Anaykus · 09-21-2009, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by coolian2

in terms of songs they're playing that i like, i completely agree with this. i'd add mysterious ways to the list, but i understand the solo has been restored so it's off the shit list.

really?

I need to hear one of the latest bootlegs

coolian2 · 09-21-2009, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyagu_Anaykus

really?

I need to hear one of the latest bootlegs

i'm going on second hand evidence from the forum where someone claimed it was back, so i'm not 100%!

PolarCamel · 09-21-2009, 04:59 AM

Actually it's kinda funny, but if you take a closer look at the way Edge treats their back catalogue you'll notice that many songs, for the first couple of tours played live (or maybe from the second tour onwards) will get a rather progressive and innovative treatment, taking them quite further from the album version in terms of arrangement, then after about a decade, or when they return to the setlist after a long hiatus, will receive a conservative treatment on Edge's part and a sound and an arrangement closer to the album version, this is true for Mysterious Ways, BTBS (they keep changing the end, but I guess it's more Bono-induced, as it has to suit his additions, the Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus have been getting closer than ever to the JT version on the Elevation and Vertigo tours), The fly has actually come closer to the ZooTV version and Hansa demos on the Vertigo tour, appart from its intro it had that organic sound quite removed from the contrast between dreamy and industrial direction that brought it to an extreme on the elevation tour. I just think that when it comes to Edge, as years go by he usually gets to feel more confident about the parts he played on the album or the way they played the song first in the studio, the current guitar parts on UV is pretty much what you can hear him play on Achtung, so I think its true for most songs that don't end up as acoustic versions.

I think bono once said something like "I would love to do a new arrangement for One, but the presbyterian Edge and the Teutonic Larry Mullen go 'No, it's gonna stay right where it is', Edge will say 'it's a guitar melody, I can't change the melody to a song'".

Adam is the one that likes to kick things around. listen to his melodic leads on Streets, and his offbeat punches on SBS right after the solo, It's getting raggae!

zwervers2 · 09-21-2009, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by last unicorn

Because, unlike fans, they don't look back but instead try to do something new instead of just repeating themselves?

Goodmorning ms positivity!

so playing a powerchord where once was a beautiful set of notes is trying something new? well yes, I guess you are right. Doesn't mean it is an improvement. The last time Edge tries something new was Bullet and Fly elevation tour by the way. I forgot: Beautiful day has a new intro

digitize · 09-21-2009, 06:57 AM

I actually prefer how Edge plays Ultraviolet on this tour to how he played it on the ZooTV Tour. But I would say that Edge has become somewhat less inclined to experiment than Bono and Adam since the days of Pop.

Regarding The Fly, I strongly prefer Vertigo to Elevation - Vertigo had the full chaos of the song included, whereas Elevation dragged it closer to a generic arena rock song, although the dreaminess of the intro was cool. I don't like BTBS in any form.

BVS · 09-21-2009, 07:39 AM

Anybody know why it's not 1993? That was a good year for me...

mikal · 09-21-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BVS

Anybody know why it's not 1993? That was a good year for me...

i was actually wondering the same thing.

09-21-2009, 02:03 AM	#1
theu2fly Refugee Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,049 Local Time: 11:22 AM	Any idea why Edge isn't playing Ultraviolet like Zoo TV? I love the 92-93 versions especially on the Explorer, when he slides the notes when Bono sings "I remember when we could sleep on stone" -- but now it just seems like some slight distortion on his Strat... When they brought back Zoo Station it was on a Gibson like it was on 92-93... the Fly was even dirtier and harder with the Variax Line 6 instead of a Strat

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09-21-2009, 02:24 AM	#2
Canadiens1131 Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ‫‬‪‫‬Montreal, Canada Posts: 8,449 Local Time: 06:22 AM	Probably for the same reason Bono isn't singing WOWY like on ZooTV.

09-21-2009, 03:46 AM	#4
zwervers2 Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 4,034 Local Time: 12:22 PM	good question! It is weird hearing it like this. I mean, if it was an improvement compared the ZOO tv fine but that part(guitarwise) sounds bland while the overall performance of the song is absolutely cool so I don't get it. overall I am not so impressed with Edge this tour/ last couple of records. oh well, what can you do..

09-21-2009, 04:59 AM	#11
PolarCamel The Fly Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: IL Posts: 107 Local Time: 01:22 PM	Actually it's kinda funny, but if you take a closer look at the way Edge treats their back catalogue you'll notice that many songs, for the first couple of tours played live (or maybe from the second tour onwards) will get a rather progressive and innovative treatment, taking them quite further from the album version in terms of arrangement, then after about a decade, or when they return to the setlist after a long hiatus, will receive a conservative treatment on Edge's part and a sound and an arrangement closer to the album version, this is true for Mysterious Ways, BTBS (they keep changing the end, but I guess it's more Bono-induced, as it has to suit his additions, the Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus have been getting closer than ever to the JT version on the Elevation and Vertigo tours), The fly has actually come closer to the ZooTV version and Hansa demos on the Vertigo tour, appart from its intro it had that organic sound quite removed from the contrast between dreamy and industrial direction that brought it to an extreme on the elevation tour. I just think that when it comes to Edge, as years go by he usually gets to feel more confident about the parts he played on the album or the way they played the song first in the studio, the current guitar parts on UV is pretty much what you can hear him play on Achtung, so I think its true for most songs that don't end up as acoustic versions. I think bono once said something like "I would love to do a new arrangement for One, but the presbyterian Edge and the Teutonic Larry Mullen go 'No, it's gonna stay right where it is', Edge will say 'it's a guitar melody, I can't change the melody to a song'". Adam is the one that likes to kick things around. listen to his melodic leads on Streets, and his offbeat punches on SBS right after the solo, It's getting raggae!

09-21-2009, 06:57 AM	#13
digitize Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 7,533 Local Time: 05:22 AM	I actually prefer how Edge plays Ultraviolet on this tour to how he played it on the ZooTV Tour. But I would say that Edge has become somewhat less inclined to experiment than Bono and Adam since the days of Pop. Regarding The Fly, I strongly prefer Vertigo to Elevation - Vertigo had the full chaos of the song included, whereas Elevation dragged it closer to a generic arena rock song, although the dreaminess of the intro was cool. I don't like BTBS in any form.